Federal Premium 6.5 Creedmoor

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Bud's has the Federal Gold Medal Berger 130gr 6.5 Creedmoor in stock; just picked up two boxes of it and two boxes of 140gr ELD-M and plan to run a comparison in my Bergara HMR.
 

Pusher591

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Has anyone had a chance to try the Federal Premium 6.5 Creedmoor with the 130gr. Berger yet? Haven't found any in my area yet.
Interested to see accuracy and velocity. The only way to get the 130's to run with the 140's is to increase the velocity but FGMM velocitys across most of the calibers have always been extremely accurate BUT are usually slower as well. If these 130's can reach the 2875-2925 window and are accurate they will no doubt have a winner but my guess is they will be around 2800-2850 from most barrels in he 22"-26" range.

I bet these will be the go to semi-auto 6.5 load though. Should give PRIME a run for their money.
 

Polizei45

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Federal list them at 2875. But will see how fast they run in my 24" AIAT. Brownells has penny shipping to 9/04/17. I just ordered a box to try.
 

ocabj

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Incidentally, I posted a mini-review this morning.

This stuff is basically equivalent to 43.2gr H4350 with a Berger 130gr AR Hybrid in either Hornady or Lapua brass in my rifle.
 

Pusher591

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Incidentally, I posted a mini-review this morning.

This stuff is basically equivalent to 43.2gr H4350 with a Berger 130gr AR Hybrid in either Hornady or Lapua brass in my rifle.
Not a bad review but I thought the ES is a little high for FGMM obviously not your fault. Curious as to the powder they use or can you tell if it's H4350. I may have missed it but what are the details on the test rifle as far as barrel lenght and make of barrel.
 

ocabj

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Not a bad review but I thought the ES is a little high for FGMM obviously not your fault. Curious as to the powder they use or can you tell if it's H4350. I may have missed it but what are the details on the test rifle as far as barrel lenght and make of barrel.
Oh, I probably should have noted that in the article. But it's a 24" 1:8" Shilen.
 
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Ran the fgmm 130 out of my AT. 2951mv 10.3 SD. 26inch Bartlein with 800 rnds of eld 140 on it. Just finished a 100 rnds PRS club match. Dead center hits on 2 and 1 moa plates from 500 to 1100yards. Wind was 8-12kts from me, dof 267degrees. Just bought another 500. Will run it in a prs club match saturday.
 
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Forgot to include this observation in my first post, mentioning powder type, I do not know what fgmm is running under those 130s, but it is dirtier than the Hornady. Much more carbon fouling in the chamber, action, and the bolt. Not enough to muck things up, but very noticeable after 60 rounds.
Still no complaints, in my limited experienceexcellent ammunition.
 
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This stuff is basically equivalent to 43.2gr H4350 with a Berger 130gr AR Hybrid in either Hornady or Lapua brass in my rifle.
dang, thats my load lol we ran 43.1-43.3 gr of h4350 under a 130 hybrid for the last couple years down here in south tx

this will be perfect because i just ordered 400 rounds of this stuff to run in a gasser...hope it works out

 
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I go to ammoseek to find the best online deals. So far outdoorlimited.com has had the best prices across the board. Vizards can be close, especially if they are a 12.99 or 14.95 flat rate shipping. Watch out for ammoliquidators though. Their prices are below 1.00 a round but their shipping costs are way,way out of line.
My average for ELd has been about 1.04 to 1.05 per round. About 210.00 per 200 case. The fgmm has run about 1.15 per.
Ran the gold match 130s in a match today. In hind sight I should have practiced with them more. I kept using 140 wind calls. At 1000 where .5 mil worked with 140s, need .8 for the 130. My elevation was always dead on for each course of fire. My own fault on the wind. Been using 140s for a year. Best SD I got was 7.2 on an 8 round string.
Recoil is a bit less which helped with spotting my impacts and misses.
Hope this helps. I like it, not 100percent convinced it's better than the hornady. I think it's going to come down to that nth degree of what each barrel/shooter is just a little better with.
All that being said, after running Sendero ammo's Bergers and EL D handloading still have the best vertical consistency. Curious to hear what some of talks observations are compared to my inexperienced eye...
 
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No,forgot to add that's without shipping. If I can I will usually wait til they have a flat rate on shipping. Doesn't matter if you order 10 or 1000 rounds shipping is 14.95.
Some other places will do free shipping but they make it up by increasing ammo price. Or the other way around, ammo below 1.00 per but the shipping is insane... I need to handload.
 

Polizei45

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I finally got to try a box of the Federal 130 Bergers. The groups were a little tighter and the recoil did seem a little less, not that the recoil was much with the 140 ELD Match. I think I will give the Prime 130s a try.
 
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Been running hornady 140 ELDM factory at 2,705 fps through my 24” 1/8 hawk hill and my buddy with the same Barrel is running the federal @ over 2,900fps..... I’ll pay the extra cash for 200fps more. Honestly I wish I had stuck with my Winchester 140 match for the money and went the the federal when it was time to re up
 

BoilerUP

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The Federal Gold Medal Berger 130gr shot like shit in my Bergara HMR...absolutely zero consistency and 2MOA+.

I was very surprised by that.

By comparison, Hornady American Gunner and ELD-M 140gr ammo were sub-MOA and at least showed some consistency.

<shrug>
 
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My ruger likes the federal 130’s. They seem to be somewhat consistent at 1000 yards although not as consistent as prime. Prime is my go to until federal comes out with their smk 140 rounds. Just my 2 cents
 

Crews

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I ran a 10-shot group of this FGMM across my Magnetospeed, out of a 21" barrel. ES of 90fps, SD of 25fps, avg mv 2820. No thanks.

They were very accurate out of my rifle at 100yards. But no more than the Hornady ELD-M that I usually shoot, which always has an SD in the teens.
 

Wyzrd

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I got a box of those federal 130’s to try out. I’m hoping they’ll be as good as the Norma 130’s in my rifle. They stock these at my local Walmart too.
 

Tree

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I was recently told by a Federal employee that they have adjusted the load to make it more accurate. Including seating depth and Powder charge resulting in what has been said to be lower velocity and greater accuracy. They did not start producing the “more accurate” load until this year. For those that have not historically had good results it may be worth giving it another try. No I do not work or get paid in anyway for this. 🙂
 

Michael Victor

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I bought a couple of boxes of the 6.5 130 FGMM and it shot really well out of my Short Action Customs build (25.5" 1:8, Defiance Action) None of the other factory ammo would shoot out of that rig. The Federal was really very consistent give me .35-.45 moa groups. Average velocity: 2820 fps
 
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I've tried these in 3 rifles now with pretty poor results. The most recent an AINA barrel that shoots the Hornady ELD match, American Gunner, and Federal American Eagle into little knots. This ammo struggled to produce MOA and the ES was 105fps for 10 rounds, unacceptable.
 

jstamper1979

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was recently told by a Federal employee that they have adjusted the load to make it more accurate.
Any more recent results with the “new and improved load”? I’ll be passing by a retailer tomorrow that has some in stock and I won’t be back that way tomorrow, so I’m debating on how much to get.

My RPR has a LRI barrel with a short throat (-0.03” freebore) designed for Bergers, so this might be the ticket for me as far as factory ammo goes.