Can you tell us why there is no comparison? I have a 5H and am very seriously considering jumping into the Elite Iron. All I hear is that it is better. I would like to know specifics. I watched the video that Frank posted. Anything you can tell me would be most appreciated.Yes,.... IMO there is no comparison. I sold the 5H and kept the EI....if that answers your question
The gentleman that I spoke to in the shop was super helpful. He told me the following:Which of the leg height options did you find worked best for you?
Does the same height offset option work with both the AX and the AXMC?
I just ordered it so don't know. The AI spigot system is the weak link of the rifle. There is poor consistency. Therefore, the ATLAS spigot solution is hit or miss. When I talked to the guy at Elite Iron, he told me about their approach and it sounds like a winner. The spigot portion has a separate screw to tighten it snugly into the AI chassis. Works differently than the knob on the ATLAS mount. The other end of the spigot has piece of picatinny rail that interfaces to their picatinny rail ring mount. He said there was no other way to do it and get it tight.Nick, how is the at spigot? Tight?
Can you tell us why there is no comparison? I have a 5H and am very seriously considering jumping into the Elite Iron. All I hear is that it is better. I would like to know specifics. I watched the video that Frank posted. Anything you can tell me would be most appreciated.
This is why I called and ordered versus ordering on-line. Spoke with Paul, couldn't remember the name, and he told me not to worry about the measurements and he would get me what I needed for my ATTalking with Dale and Paul at EI, I told them just send me the mount that I need so I'm GTG for my AXMC....so dunno. I'll look when I get home, so I can make sure I relay the correct info.
Triangle of Stability, in my training we talk about this:Yes... To start with a whole bunch of words with the letter "S" come to mind when describing the EI bipod IMO---stabile, strong, steady, smooth, and sexy. For comparative I have the standard height in steel running on an AXMC. Right out of the box feeling this bipod you can tell it's quality made. From there, the geometry of the design lends itself to stability. All bipods, I visually draw a triangle in my mind, of the rifle bore in relationship to the bipod triangle (bipod legs-sides of triangle, ground-base of triangle). Pretty much the majority of bipods, the bore is sitting on the top peak of the triangle.
Whereas with the EI, the bore is inside that triangle--which exponentiates stability. The 5H also has the bore placement within this triangle, but in order to create that geometry they made the long arc raceway. This is unique to the 5H, which IMO feels like having a Texas long horn strapped onto your rail. So, stability wise, in this sense is very similar between the two--due to geometrical design. When carrying the rifle with legs in, I much prefer the EI. The EI bipod matches the profile of the rail/rifle much better. Contrastingly different to the 5H and having to watch out for the Texas long horn on the rifle when carrying and placing in truck.
Next is canting. The EI has an extremely smooth raceway that feels like glass.
This makes finite canting, to obtain your natural point of aim, a breeze. I can cant smoothly and finitely whether I am loading the bipod or not. Even with tension from the tensioning screw, the canting ability remains smooth and controllable. [On a side note the tensioner is finite--easy finger adjustments take me from no tension on canting to locked out]. Comparatively, I found the 5H much more difficult to achieve a relaxed NPA. I am not an engineer, but it appears to me that they are using a friction plate design to double serve as part of the the raceway for canting and tensioning the canting. I found finite canting to be much more difficult, more often choppey in nature vs. smooth like glass. Consequenctially, I more often found myself loading/unloading the 5H, playing with tensioner, or just saying "fuck it" to end up muscling my NPA.
The 5H had panning ability, which my EI did not (I have the non-panning version). Otherwise, all other functions of the 5H were Atlas quality and worked as advertised. Don't get me wrong, I love Atlas products and think they do quality manufacturing--I have a couple of PSR's which I love. In this case, I personally found the EI to be superior for the reasons stated above. YMMV.
Currently, I'm testing out Tubb's non-symmetrical bipod, which might turn out to be my all time favorite--time will tell.
Which spacing height for the ring / barrel offset did you go with?
Thanks. I really like that adapter. I might get it even if i don't end up getting the bipod.
I was just like you. If you call and talk to them you will definitely gain knowledge specific to your application. It is a lot of coin. I was between a tripod set up with hog saddle vs the Elite Iron bipod. I decided I would use the bipod more and bought one. Best decision I ever made. Take the time to practice with it.I’m in the same position too, that’s a lot of coin for a bipod but from what I’ve read it’s worth it. Good luck, hope you like it and a pic would be great when you get it set up!
Same I just mounted mine to my AT about 30 minutes ago. It seems fantastic, can't wait to shoot with it this weekend.Got mine 4 days ago but I was on a business trip. Just mounted it to my AT...all I can say is WOW. It is rock SOLID. Can't wait for the range day on Saturday
So what bipod did you have to use with the Desert Tech. You must have a short one. Mine is the the SRS. and 26 inch 338 barrel.I've had limited experience with both along with an LRA f class and I like the elite iron better. Main reason I didn't go with the Elite iron is because it won't work with the short barrels in a desert tech because of the brake at the end of the handguard.
I've decided to run the LRA f class bipod on it. I like it the best out of the ones i have tried so far. If i didn't have several of the barrels that are flush with the end of the handguard then I would run the elite iron.So what bipod did you have to use with the Desert Tech. You must have a short one. Mine is the the SRS. and 26 inch 338 barrel.