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Well perhaps comparing my Leupolds I just happen to be comparing "good ones" that may not be typical of production scopes. I used two 6.5-20 x 50 MM with 30 MM tubes until only recently, essentially the same as what they later called the Mark 4. At the time I ordered them, they were only available as a special order direct from Premier Reticles back when they were the warranty center for Leupold. BTW that we pre-internet.

I don't know if Premier Reticles gave them some special voodoo or if they were typical of what Leupold was producing at the time.

I will say that some years later I was viewing a similar Leupold MK4 scope in Cabella's one day and the glass was terrible compared to mine.

I would say the resolution on mine was very close to what a Leupold 5-25x56 Mark 5HD is today. Which BTW I was using last Saturday.

As for guys claiming the resolution is great on the XTRII, if it is, why would Burris introduce the XTRIII with improved resolution?
 

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Well perhaps comparing my Leupolds I just happen to be comparing "good ones" that may not be typical of production scopes. I used two 6.5-20 x 50 MM with 30 MM tubes until only recently, essentially the same as what they later called the Mark 4. At the time I ordered them, they were only available as a special order direct from Premier Reticles back when they were the warranty center for Leupold. BTW that we pre-internet.

I don't know if Premier Reticles gave them some special voodoo or if they were typical of what Leupold was producing at the time.

I will say that some years later I was viewing a similar Leupold MK4 scope in Cabella's one day and the glass was terrible compared to mine.

I would say the resolution on mine was very close to what a Leupold 5-25x56 Mark 5HD is today. Which BTW I was using last Saturday.

As for guys claiming the resolution is great on the XTRII, if it is, why would Burris introduce the XTRIII with improved resolution?
Cripes dude, just stop already. Burris is obviously targeting a different market/price point with the XTRIII. You realize you're arguing with people who stare through different optics of different price points everyday. Your responses are becoming cringeworthy and you're crapping in a thread with non-constructive insight. Start your own thread comparing your Leupold to the Burris XTRII if you want. I've owned countless Leupold's and at least 3 XTRII's. The XTRII offers far more bang for the buck than the MK4 ever did, and I've owned 2 MK4's in the past. I've also owned 2 MK5's and they are a fantastic optic. Plan on ordering an XTRIII very soon. Glass quality be damned, the scope needs to track, and that's what the XTRII has a history of. I don't care if you can see the hairs on a spider's ass at 1,000 yards with an optic, if it won't track repeatedly, its worthless except as a spotting scope.
 

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Well perhaps comparing my Leupolds I just happen to be comparing "good ones" that may not be typical of production scopes. I used two 6.5-20 x 50 MM with 30 MM tubes until only recently, essentially the same as what they later called the Mark 4. At the time I ordered them, they were only available as a special order direct from Premier Reticles back when they were the warranty center for Leupold. BTW that we pre-internet.

I don't know if Premier Reticles gave them some special voodoo or if they were typical of what Leupold was producing at the time.

I will say that some years later I was viewing a similar Leupold MK4 scope in Cabella's one day and the glass was terrible compared to mine.

I would say the resolution on mine was very close to what a Leupold 5-25x56 Mark 5HD is today. Which BTW I was using last Saturday.

As for guys claiming the resolution is great on the XTRII, if it is, why would Burris introduce the XTRIII with improved resolution?
XTR3 is a better and more expensive scope than XTR2. Most manufacturers have different product lines that vary in price and performance.

For the record, there is a lot more to it than resolution. The resolution on XTR2 is actually quite decent, although XTR3 is better. In other parameters XTR3 is a lot better.

With the Leupold scopes you saw, it could be as simple as sample variation. Also, I would not go off of looking at a scope in a store.

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The XTRIII is the best scope I've looked through, played with, that is under the $2k street price. My eyes, my rifle, my opinion. That's not saying the razor, mk5, and the others aren't good options. But all around, the scr2 reticle is probably the best reticle I've used, other than the mil-xt in the NF. Not to cluttered and usable. The resolution is top notch for the price, turrets are tracking and feel nice, and I've yet to hear of a broken turret like some others. I had a tango 6 for a few years. Loved it even though most on hear said stay away. Turrets were mushy, although a simple fix made them much better, resolution was decent. The XTRIII has made me a believer in Burris. Before i out my hands on one you couldn't have paid me to put a burris on my rifle. Just my humble opinion.
 

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Disregarding the weight difference and illumination, have these been out long enough to say, “yes, these compete with a Gen 2 Razor”? I guess looking solely at tracking, reliability, glass clarity
 

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I shot a PRS match yesterday with my 223 trainer with the 18x XTR3 on top.

I have to say I really enjoy the glass on this scope. I keep comparing it to everything I see, and it stacks up well. Especially at sub $2k.

I'm really taking a shine to the 18x.
 

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I shot a PRS match yesterday with my 223 trainer with the 18x XTR3 on top.

I have to say I really enjoy the glass on this scope. I keep comparing it to everything I see, and it stacks up well. Especially at sub $2k.

I'm really taking a shine to the 18x.
Is the reticle the same thickness between the 18x and 30x?
Burris website is pretty vague and Ive sent them an email with no response yet.
 

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The 18x is definitely optimized for that magnification in the SCR2. The reticle is thicker in the 18x.
Thats very good to hear!
I think Ill be seeing a 3.3-18 SCR2 in my gun safe in the near future.

Any chance of some reticle pics?
Im guessing the reticle is still very fine at 3.3x with it becoming readily visible around 5 or 6x?
 

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Thats very good to hear!
I think Ill be seeing a 3.3-18 SCR2 in my gun safe in the near future.

Any chance of some reticle pics?
Im guessing the reticle is still very fine at 3.3x with it becoming readily visible around 5 or 6x?
@wjm308 has some great pics of the reticle at multiple magnifications in his review thread of the XTR3.
 

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I like my XTR2, it's the best scope that I own. Had a cert so I just ordered an XTR3.

This late thread debate inspired me to print out one of those eye tests and post it to a pole 100yd down the street. Comparing The XTR2 to an Athlon Argos ($275) and a Vortex Viper($400) the glass is about the same as the Argos and not as clear as the Viper all at 20x

Clear as in ability to read the smallest text.
Argos and XTR2 I could make out most of 9 and Viper I could read all of 10.

Do you think I should send in my XTR2?
 

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I like my XTR2, it's the best scope that I own. Had a cert so I just ordered an XTR3.

This late thread debate inspired me to print out one of those eye tests and post it to a pole 100yd down the street. Comparing The XTR2 to an Athlon Argos ($275) and a Vortex Viper($400) the glass is about the same as the Argos and not as clear as the Viper all at 20x

Clear as in ability to read the smallest text.
Argos and XTR2 I could make out most of 9 and Viper I could read all of 10.

Do you think I should send in my XTR2?
Doesn't suprise me at all. But the Argos and the viper will break and the xtr2 wont
 

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I like my XTR2, it's the best scope that I own. Had a cert so I just ordered an XTR3.

This late thread debate inspired me to print out one of those eye tests and post it to a pole 100yd down the street. Comparing The XTR2 to an Athlon Argos ($275) and a Vortex Viper($400) the glass is about the same as the Argos and not as clear as the Viper all at 20x

Clear as in ability to read the smallest text.
Argos and XTR2 I could make out most of 9 and Viper I could read all of 10.

Do you think I should send in my XTR2?
If you notice any discoloration or fuzzyness I would atleast have them check it out. They might give you a newer production xtr2.
 
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58 lbs. was hoping for under 55 but i cant complain. last year was over 60.

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Burris XTR3

Will give AAR monday morning!!

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Nice D_T! Who makes those claw feet for your tripod? I have a PVA COMP-40 and have been looking for something like that.
 

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Nice D_T! Who makes those claw feet for your tripod? I have a PVA COMP-40 and have been looking for something like that.
Pretty sure those are the stock/OE feet on the MDT Ckye-pod. They detach similar to Atlas, you might be able to get them direct from MDT and fit if it's the same style of feet?
 

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Can’t wait to read more. I’m seriously looking at picking up a 5.5-30x soon
 
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Just finished the 2020 Bushnell Elite Tactical Sniper Challenge in Ellerbe, NC. 3 days in the forest covering over 30 miles forced rucks between shooting stages. our packs weighed ~65lbs with rifle pistol ammo food tripod and camping gear (tent 2lb bag jet boil), and any other misc we may need. If you at any ruck you dont make the req max time per mile you are done for the weekend.
I was using the Lanner 5400 Seek Outside my partner has a K2 2200. His pack was grossly full mine was way to big.

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The elevation change on rucks, 17* weather, snow, rain, and muddy roads made for a LONG weekend but we survived (and i mean survived) for a 2nd place finish in the toughman division firing over 100 rifle and pistol rnds ea.
Kelbly's Inc. Rifle
Burris Optics XTR3
SIG SAUER Pistols
Ivory Holsters
@MDT_OFFICIAL LSS-XL stocks

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The biggest plus i feel besides having smoking accurate rifles was how well our packs rode. Nver a rub or hot spot or cramping. Beautiful when a plan works. (my calfs on day 3 on other hand...lol)

Biggest downside - weight
spots to cut:
- pistol P320 X5
- tripod (feisol)
- bipod (Ckye-Pod triple pull)

Anyway to stay on topic of thread, the XTR3 was perfect. My partner using the 3-18. me the 5-30
Cant tell you how good it is to truly be able to trust a scopes tracking...THEN good glass as well.

HASHTAGMERICA!!!

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Congrats DT on the 2nd place finish in what sounds like an awesome match! Love the Kermit green rifle. I see the frost on your XTR III in the one pic, how cold did it get, did you have any issues with glass fogging up or tight rings (mag, parallax) or?
 
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Congrats DT on the 2nd place finish in what sounds like an awesome match! Love the Kermit green rifle. I see the frost on your XTR III in the one pic, how cold did it get, did you have any issues with glass fogging up or tight rings (mag, parallax) or?
it got to 17* at night...mid 30's during the day. never noticed anything getting tough to spin or fog which is super nice.

one morning we did have to deal with the sun just peaking over the trees and was looking straight into the sun at white targets in the snow. I was able to see all the targets exceot for the smaller long distance one that wasn't painted.



What do you mean by "spots to cut", are you meaning these items were too heavy and you need to look for something lighter?
yes sir cut weight. really want to be under 60 lbs.


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it got to 17* at night...mid 30's during the day. never noticed anything getting tough to spin or fog which is super nice.

one morning we did have to deal with the sun just peaking over the trees and was looking straight into the sun at white targets in the snow. I was able to see all the targets exceot for the smaller long distance one that wasn't painted.





yes sir cut weight. really want to be under 60 lbs.


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How do you like that feisol?
 

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How do you like that feisol?
The feisol is a fantastic tripod. As good as anything IMO.

The trick came with mounting a different size head in the bowl. I had to cut pop can spacers (1/2" wide 6" long) to wrap around the ball head to get a snug fit then cranked the set screws down. WAY more effective than screwing the ballhead on the flat plate. Do not do that. very wobbly.

Would I get a RRS if the prices were the same? probably. but they arnt. its over double and I got this used for like 300.

MAKE sure you get the 406bullets.com spike feet for your tripod tho. very big improvement over the rubber feet that fall out.


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Disregarding the weight difference and illumination, have these been out long enough to say, “yes, these compete with a Gen 2 Razor”? I guess looking solely at tracking, reliability, glass clarity

Man that's tough. The Gen2 has been around the block. I loved mine other than the locking knobs. Accidentally hit those a lot which was a nuisance.

Give it a year and I will say yes. Right now I give the edge to Gen2. There is always kinks to work out. Right now I say the glass is a push and tracking is a push. Just track record only can be filled with time. Ive been using them for going on 3 yrs now with nary a hiccup.


Ill nvr steer someone from a Gen2 tho. Just a solid option. But again, they are considerably differnet price differences. Isnt retail on the Gen 2 like $2500? too lazy to check right now but I know its several hundred more.


I feel confident saying this, cant go wrong with either. And Im not a Vortex fan. Both have top notch warranty lolol.

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Man that's tough. The Gen2 has been around the block. I loved mine other than the locking knobs. Accidentally hit those a lot which was a nuisance.

Give it a year and I will say yes. Right now I give the edge to Gen2. There is always kinks to work out. Right now I say the glass is a push and tracking is a push. Just track record only can be filled with time. Ive been using them for going on 3 yrs now with nary a hiccup.


Ill nvr steer someone from a Gen2 tho. Just a solid option. But again, they are considerably differnet price differences. Isnt retail on the Gen 2 like $2500? too lazy to check right now but I know its several hundred more.


I feel confident saying this, cant go wrong with either. And Im not a Vortex fan. Both have top notch warranty lolol.

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DT
Hide vendors can get you one for under $1,600
 

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That's not even close to comparing apples to apples. Going off website pricing.

G2: $2899.99
XTR3: $2159

that's a little more than considerable price difference to me.
Obvious in that suggested price is quality of components. If the XTR3 can be mentioned in the same sentence as a G2, that's a win win IMO.

and its MADE IN AMERICA!!
F ya.

YMMV
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