Buckle up VA. The attorney general is now tone deaf.

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end? shit, it never will end. If the current cold civil war goes hot, and if every swinging communist/socialist/power upsurping cocksucker was dragged out and executed publicly in the street, it would less than two generations and this shit would start again.

But that is not to say we should take our foot of the gas pedal. I am heartened to see more and more LEOs stepping up and joining the right side. These sheriffs and federal guys stepping up and publicly stating they are with the people, it gives me hope.

Continue to build these strong bonds in the community. And go after these bastards with a vengeance. These cocksuckers need to be harassed, publicly ridiculed, and heckled endlessly. Mobs of people swarming their offices and putting the fear of the ALMIGHTY in their sorry asses. Not only remove them from office, but run them the fuck out of town.

What we need to do is round them up and charge them with treason. Find someone with some balls to write out an arrest warrent for them. Frog march them into jail, give them their trial. And if guilty? To the fucking gallows with you. RUIN them.
Too extreme? They’ve been doing it to us for the last century. Time to turn the tables on them.
 

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Been really reluctant to get into this one. I'm older, retired, and experiencing some health problems. I have no delusions about my abilities or what armed resistance would be like. I'm mad, really, really angry. Law enforcement of various types follow this site and others like it I'm sure. For that reason, while I would really like to unload, I'm going to restrain myself and not engage in stupid stuff.

I worked in Virginia government and have personal experience with the state's current leadership. They are ever bit as egotistical, arrogant, and plan evil as they appear. Believe me when I say they despise people who make up the majority of the folks on this site. Furthermore, they have no use for us. They believe/know they have won this fight and see no way they can loose. Hence the arrogance displayed by both governor and attorney general blackface(s). Just so you know, the ag is probably much more intelligent and political savvy than the governor. Not sure which one that makes more dangerous. As far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, no state to this point has actually tried to really enforce such draconian gun laws or resorted to confiscation. What really scares me is that I firmly believe this bunch believes they can do it and intend to move ahead with it once the laws are passed. Too many liberal voters who voted and too many conservative voters who refused to vote to change much now.
 

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I'm with quite a few of you on this thread. I sure as F don't want the "Boog" to happen. I've even had conversations with the wife over this shit. We are older and retired and we are F'd, if the .gov decides to "flip-the-switch", we both have Fed. retirements and State retirements, plus monies in the bank. We are "Socialized" at this time in our lives. I've been pretty upset with all that has been happening and have been discussing this with family members. My wife/kids are worried about a possible "Boog" and the position I strongly feel I would take. I have taken "The Oath" at least 3x's in my life and strongly believe in it. I'm old, fat (not that fat), crippled, and don't have a whole lot more to give to society, I'm pretty much gave out. I pretty much just want to live in peace, not F with anybody and not have anybody F with me or my family. I'm a peaceful person, but I'm feeling a little "pushed" at this time in my life. I'm speaking for myself here, but these politicians think it's OK to not have "Truth in Sentencing" and allowing F'n convicts out that should be left in, throwing more shit out in the street and then in the same breath, disarm us, so we can't protect ourselves from said shit. We WILL be eating ourselves, soon, while they, the Elite, sit back and watch. Does Road Warrior, come to mind? The politicians of this country, have lost all common sense, with the issues that the average citizen faces. These F's in .gov should watch the movie "The Shooter" and realize that this is how the tax paying, working class, people view them. I am really worried of what's in store for us/them, in the very near future. These draconian laws need to STOP. WE ain't Australia, and we ain't the UK! Mac:mad:
 
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I'm with quite a few of you on this thread. I sure as F don't want the "Boog" to happen. I've even had conversations with the wife over this shit. We are older and retired and we are F'd, if the .gov decides to "flip-the-switch", we both have Fed. retirements and State retirements, plus monies in the bank. We are "Socialized" at this time in our lives. I've been pretty upset with all that has been happening and have been discussing this with family members. My wife/kids are worried about a possible "Boog" and the position I strongly feel I would take. I have taken "The Oath" at least 3x's in my life and strongly believe in it. I'm old, fat (not that fat), crippled, and don't have a whole lot more to give to society, I'm pretty much gave out. I pretty much just want to live in peace, not F with anybody and not have anybody F with me or my family. I'm a peaceful person, but I'm feeling a little "pushed" at this time in my life. I'm speaking for myself here, but these politicians think it's OK to not have "Truth in Sentencing" and allowing F'n convicts out that should be left in, throwing more shit out in the street and then in the same breath, disarm us, so we can't protect ourselves from said shit. We WILL be eating ourselves, soon, while they, the Elite, sit back and watch. Does Road Warrior, come to mind? The politicians of this country, have lost all common sense, with the issues that the average citizen faces. These F's in .gov should watch the movie "The Shooter" and realize that this is how the tax paying, working class, people view them. I am really worried of what's in store for us/them, in the very near future. These draconian laws need to STOP, we ain't Australia, and we ain't the UK! Mac:mad:
Easy enough to figure out where they are. If supplies cannot get to their mansions they will compromise or perish. Anyone who truly wishes for collapse in the US has likely never travelled to post collapse areas of the world. It is horrible, people you love and respect will die badly or do things that you never would have imagined them capable of. But without men willing to fight for it, our Constitution is dead in the water, and with it the last ray of light in the dying cesspool of a backwater planet. My children are young, my career is young, my debt is high... none of these things supercede the oath I took to defend my Constitution from all enemeies foreign and domestic. An oath is not a fair weather promise, it must be satisfied and honored regardless of what it may cost to do so. Prepare your minds, your bodies, and your spirits for what lay ahead. It will not be a brief struggle.
 

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I’ve probably asked 100 fellow LEOs if they would carry out an order to confiscate guns.

Thus far, everyone has said no. I’m sure there are some out there who would follow such order, but they are in the minority.
When it begins, take care of your minority.
 
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If the Dems get control it will be an absolute nightmare.

We will be scared to be informed on by our neighbors and coworkers.

We will be scared for the safety of our wives and children.

Every day when we to go to work we won’t know what we will come home to.

Dem Gestapo will disappear our high school buddies, cousins and girlfriends.

We will be under constant surveillance.

Fear will rule.

There will be prison camps.
Maybe you'll be scared. Not all of us will be.

The most dangerous man is the one with nothing left to lose.
 

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How about we threaten the overlods' families. Who do you think is going to blink?

The overlords have neither the skill, nor the means, nor the stomach for direct action. The cops who are patriots do.

Somehow this image comes to mind...



Also, some new generation cancer medications are already being developed that uses protein structures and surface binding to certain proteins to allow the drugs to target the tumors directly instead of harming surrounding tissue via blanket effect such as with traditional chemotherapy...
 
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end? shit, it never will end. If the current cold civil war goes hot, and if every swinging communist/socialist/power upsurping cocksucker was dragged out and executed publicly in the street, it would less than two generations and this shit would start again.

But that is not to say we should take our foot of the gas pedal. I am heartened to see more and more LEOs stepping up and joining the right side. These sheriffs and federal guys stepping up and publicly stating they are with the people, it gives me hope.

Continue to build these strong bonds in the community. And go after these bastards with a vengeance. These cocksuckers need to be harassed, publicly ridiculed, and heckled endlessly. Mobs of people swarming their offices and putting the fear of the ALMIGHTY in their sorry asses. Not only remove them from office, but run them the fuck out of town.

What we need to do is round them up and charge them with treason. Find someone with some balls to write out an arrest warrent for them. Frog march them into jail, give them their trial. And if guilty? To the fucking gallows with you. RUIN them.
Too extreme? They’ve been doing it to us for the last century. Time to turn the tables on them.
Those people who actively, willingly, and knowingly try to turn the lethal force of government against their political opponents deserve what Mossad did with key Nazis who escaped the Nuremberg trials.

The relationship between government and the people is always contentious as our founders foresaw. What they could not foresee, since it would take roughly another 100 years until Communism/Socialism appeared, was the existence of societies where a group of the people would coopt the government to eradicate those who did not share their dystopian dreams. (Please study the assumption and subsequent abuses of power by the Nazis in Germany to understand their playbook).

We can, right now, make our own list of people who very vocally fall in this category. I am not talking about people who want to take our guns or our freedom - as despicable this is by itself. I am also not referring to people who practice lifestyles or beliefs that are in-congruent with ours. No, I am talking about people who proudly await and provoke that THEIR government kills US. Once the first 100 lives have been lost in a physical battle over whether this country runs according to the Constitution or Marx's and Engel's manifesto, these people should live in perpetual fear until death finds them.

I sincerely hope that it does not come to this, that the moderate left will rein in these violent extremists, who are already setting fires in neighborhoods for their 'cause'. But if that fails, those characters should not get the chance of a second attempt on this earth. Rest assured, they will try in hell to 'get it right this time' - until they realize that hell already implemented socialism for the purpose of harsher punishment.
 
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The Somalis burned tires to make smoke signals during the battle of Mogadishu.

It worked very well to alert the natives that the Americans were there.

Might work to alert patriots if the redcoats begin abusing the people.
 

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It's the Government that needs purged. Soon. Get yer head clear and stop blaming yer neighbor - yer gonna need him to cover yer back soon. We been fucked by our Oligarchy owned and operated Government. The same Oligarchy that is bribing yer Government owns and operates the Media. All of the information you are receiving is to groom you to hate and resist your neighbor and trust the Government and authoritative persona. Not my Senator. He/She is on my side because they are a Republican/Democrat. Bullshit. They are *ALL* paid and purchased by a Global Oligarchy that Wants. Your. Wealth.

Get yer head outta yer ass. It's not the other political parties that need checked or purged...it's yer local and national Reps and Senators. It's yer Representation and your Government. Stop convoluting this and look at what's happening and who is fucking you.

Fuck.... Get a clue.

VooDoo
 

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but these politicians think it's OK to not have "Truth in Sentencing" and allowing F'n convicts out that should be left in, throwing more shit out in the street and then in the same breath, disarm us, so we can't protect ourselves from said shit.
that's what really pisses me off. dems want no or light sentences for those proven to be violent offenders, and let in illegals etc, but then want to deprive the honest and hardworking citizens of their guns & ammo. to supposed keep society safer.
 

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If you read history, there has never been a time when those evil folks in charge didn't have a pretty good supply of "Just following orders" types and "Just doing their duty" kind to either willingly or by conscription try to force their evil will upon the people.

The only variable is how dedicated the folks standing up to them are and how well equipped they are.
Milgrim showed that just about anyone is capable of far worse than just violating someone’s rights in the name of “following orders”.

I don’t need to point out to this crowd that is a fine argument, if not a primary reason for the 2nd’s existence.

While I am not the cop-bashing sort, neither do I think anyone should rely wholly on law enforcement for their protection, nor expect them to stand as the front line in the defense of liberty.
 

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It's the Government that needs purged. Soon. Get yer head clear and stop blaming yer neighbor - yer gonna need him to cover yer back soon. We been fucked by our Oligarchy owned and operated Government. The same Oligarchy that is bribing yer Government owns and operates the Media. All of the information you are receiving is to groom you to hate and resist your neighbor and trust the Government and authoritative persona. Not my Senator. He/She is on my side because they are a Republican/Democrat. Bullshit. They are *ALL* paid and purchased by a Global Oligarchy that Wants. Your. Wealth.

Get yer head outta yer ass. It's not the other political parties that need checked or purged...it's yer local and national Reps and Senators. It's yer Representation and your Government. Stop convoluting this and look at what's happening and who is fucking you.

Fuck.... Get a clue.

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What is the government in your opinion? Is it the matrix with clonable instances of agent Smith?

I have eaten a lot of Red Pills lately but all I see in government is a collection of people like you and I. Voters and workers. Maybe "workers" is too much of a title for politicians but they certainly vote. A whole lot more than we do.

Some work for .gov because they like the power. Others have correctly concluded that it is more lucrative to work for the mafia rather than for those who have to pay the protection fees (i.e. taxes). And another not insignificant group just does a decent job on keeping this country running.

Do you think that the posts on social media about waiting for "some redneck being shot when he clings to his guns" come from a bot or do these comments come from the same ilk like Adam Lanza. From people(!) who derive pleasure and self-worth from the death and suffering of others.

I have said before that We the People and the government will always be competitors for power but today we are fighting against a group of radicals that want to turn this country - including the government - upside down. I expect the government to be complicit because it is being promised absolute power over everything and everyone.

Please consider who the instigator is and who acts as an accomplice. Even if you have a magic button to replace all government workers with constitutionalists, you are going to have the same problem after maybe two election cycles if you ignore the 'activists'. Obama fired and replaced everyone in .gov he could and every leftist will do exactly the same.

As much as I hate the oligarchs, I think they would rather see me alive so I can create things they sell to you after a huge markup, pay more taxes, and more of their shit, and put money in my 401k that they can gamble with.
 
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Um, you guys should already be showing up at the AGs office in force! Seriously. Get off here and get to work. Don’t wait till they actually start enforcing stuff, do it now, record using your own media and give it to sources of alternative media to get the word out. You can figure out the rest. But my guess is if 500 of you showed up in force Monday morning, they’d probably back down pretty quick. But if they don’t I’m not sure anything is really going to happen either. They ain’t coming door to door; most folks will just stick them in their closets and be a good citizen. There may be one tim MV type but I doubt it. Guess we will just have to see. I’m hoping you all stand your ground. PS...guns are fairly simply to make if you got some access to basic machines...just saying. It’s also likely you are being pushed on purpose.
 
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Some people seem to be forgetting that local cops, (PD/Sheriff) are the most 2nd A supporters you'll ever see! They will not confiscate guns or go door to door to take guns from regular citizens.
 

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Yes it is important to remind people of just how willingly "Those following order" and "Just doing their duty" were to violently seize the only means of protection from those who needed it the most, under threat of murder on the spot, and then abandon them to gangs and looters to fend for themselves... They didn't even hide it, they were PROUD of their SS tactics and boasted about it to all their buddies.

So when someone tells you their daydreams about "The King's Men" refusing to do as they are told... perhaps add this to the history lesson you can dump on their head.

The difference for next time is a lot more people have gotten their heads out of the sand and no longer reflexively grovel and worship as they lick the boots of "The King's Men" and will decide it's time to do their best 1776 impersonation.
 

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Perfectly good men stood by and watched women and children enter the gas chambers. And don't think for a minute that "I wouldn't just stand by and watch." because history has already proved you wrong. Survival is a fucked up virus that no one is immune to.
 

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Perfectly good men stood by and watched women and children enter the gas chambers. And don't think for a minute that "I wouldn't just stand by and watch." because history has already proved you wrong. Survival is a fucked up virus that no one is immune to.
Because taking a stand and saying No, means you immediately become the enemy to your entire current organization and they will stop at nothing to make an example of you and your family. Most are not ready and prepared for that. You can't stay in the machine and think you can get off at any time you choose. You have to make the choice long before about exactly when and how you will leave the machine.
 

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I’ve said this before, but when the left gains power they are going to use forensic internet history to prosecute us for thought crimes.

They’ll create new “militant speech” laws and put us in prison for things we said on the internet 10 or 15 years ago.
 
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I’ve said this before, but when the left gains power they are going to use forensic internet history to prosecute us for thought crimes.

They’ll create new “militant speech” laws and put us in prison for things we said on the internet 10 or 15 years ago.
What happens when 80 million gun owners decide they don’t feel like going to prison quietly?
 
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If the .gov somehow legislates laws for things that were once legal and then becomes illegal and you can be proactively charged means we've gone so far down the drain, it's likely already too late. Especially if it's related to speech.
 
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What happens when 80 million gun owners decide they don’t feel like going to prison quietly?
You might as well ask what would have happened if 6 million Jews had stood up to Hitler, together all at once.
Or if 20 million Russians stood up to Stalin, together all at once
Or if 60 million Chinese stood up to Mao, together all at once
Or if 2 million Cambodians stood up to Pol Pot, together all at once

In every case, small groups fought bravely, but the rest didn't understand what was going on till it was way too late to fight.
 

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Some people seem to be forgetting that local cops, (PD/Sheriff) are the most 2nd A supporters you'll ever see! They will not confiscate guns or go door to door to take guns from regular citizens.

Ever had a coworker who you was super cool with and thought was a genuine friend, until he became a supervisor/manager? And then you wondered why he suddenly became an asshole "out of the blue"? I think we all have known someone like that at one point...
 

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You might as well ask what would have happened if 6 million Jews had stood up to Hitler, together all at once.
Or if 20 million Russians stood up to Stalin, together all at once
Or if 60 million Chinese stood up to Mao, together all at once
Or if 2 million Cambodians stood up to Pol Pot, together all at once

In every case, small groups fought bravely, but the rest didn't understand what was going on till it was way too late to fight.
They didn’t have instant access to vital information like we do now. They will first have to disarm us. Then take down the internet. Then they can destroy the Constitution and cancel our rights - all of them. Then they can do what they want. But they are going to have to do it in that order.... and I do not believe Americans will tolerate that type of treatment.
 
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You might as well ask what would have happened if 6 million Jews had stood up to Hitler, together all at once.
Or if 20 million Russians stood up to Stalin, together all at once
Or if 60 million Chinese stood up to Mao, together all at once
Or if 2 million Cambodians stood up to Pol Pot, together all at once

In every case, small groups fought bravely, but the rest didn't understand what was going on till it was way too late to fight.
Yep, not to mention everyone one of those victimized populations were disarmed prior to those atrocities taking place. Even if they wanted to, fighting back was going to be a losing proposition with the same end results anyway.

They and hundreds of other examples through the ages are precisely why the Framers installed the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights

And it’s the SECOND amendment on the list for a reason.

When the time comes, if we don’t use it, we lose it and become just another victim.
 
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I don't really understand why we keep referring to this as a "2nd Civil War". The faggots aren't gonna throw rainbows at us. Its us vs gubmint. Wouldn't that be a revolutionary war?
A civil uprising today wold not be a revolution, it would be a third civil war. The Revolution was the first civil war.

What goes around, comes around...

1775...

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If anything happens it will be a shoot an scoot like V/N, Cambodia, Laos, an the Congo all over again, except here. There will be no lines, no quarter, an it will get very ugly real quick. Those that have all their stores in one place, an truck loads of guns stocked in one place will not stand a chance in the long run.
 

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And if something happens, it'll be on every national propaganda outlet that this is exactly why we need to take the guns away, because these people are crazy and shouldn't own guns. The more people fight back with bullets, the more it will prove their point to their side of the argument.

Keep in mind, most all politicians are egomaniacs. The real prospect of them losing their power over a vote does carry some weight. Right now, in my opinion, the best way to stop this is to do as others have said. Keep the pressure on them, flood their phones, emails, and offices, and do not take your foot off the gas pedal.

The reality is it's going to be submitted and then assigned a committee. That committee will have a small number of people on it. Those committee members need to feel the pressure by being overwhelmed by us, daily.

I hate the left's tactics. I hate sanctuary cities, I hate bothering someone when they are out eating dinner with their family, but in this case, it seems the best way to fight back against them is to do to them exactly what they do to us. Make public life a pain in their ass for them. Daily. Repeat. No threats, no violence, just do to them what they do to everyone else.
 

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lots of things said here. i’ll share what i’ve seen in my time on this earth.

we’ve been conditioned to be sheep by our parents and grandparents. maybe even our great grandparents.

what i’ve seen in the last 15 years is an awakening. it’s gaining steam. i believe it’s in response to the boldness of the communists and antifa. they’ve taken off their masks, and the people of this country are onto it. trump winning has really caused the puppet masters to expose themselves, and they’ve over estimated themselves. they are throwing a collective temper tantrum.

when i see federal agents coming out and making public speeches against upcoming legislation, when i see sheriffs siding up with the people, and when i see the populace using the legal system to confront these communist bastards, it gives me a whole bunch of hope.

the ONLY way the government dogs can win is to get us divided and against each other. right now, i see the public coming together. when was the last time you saw the black community railing against the democratic party? so many brilliant young people stepping up and shining a light on the cockroaches.

yeah, you can be negative all you want. me? i’ve never seen this kind of momentum for “we the people”. i have NEVER had this much hope for our future. sometimes you have to push things to the brink to get results.
 

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We will not vote our way out or even reason with them,...there is only one way this ends. Plus once it starts, many are going to/after get pay back for everything that they perceive is now wrong with this country. The FSA an those that empower them are going to take a beating,...
 
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It's not about voting them out, it's about making your voice heard. The reason we are where we are is because too many were silent for too long. Now is not the time to be hiding in the bushes, silently, now is the time to get the megaphone out and be heard. This prosposed bill is only a piece of paper at this point. It will have to be accepted for consideration and assigned to a committee and then changed, and then submitted or killed. Sit on your hands at your own peril.

I think Virginia is a VERY different place than California.

I wondered, if a baby isn't a baby until it's born (their logic), is an "Assault Rifle" really an "Assault Rifle" if it hasn't assualted anyone yet? That would just make it a rifle :) LOL
 
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If anything happens it will be a shoot an scoot like V/N, Cambodia, Laos, an the Congo all over again, except here. There will be no lines, no quarter, an it will get very ugly real quick. Those that have all their stores in one place, an truck loads of guns stocked in one place will not stand a chance in the long run.
If whatever is going to happen takes place tomorrow (or frankly, anytime soon) it would likely devolve into what you describe here.

The problem I see with waging any sort of successful armed rebellion is that we civilians are really just a huge population of individuals or perhaps small groups. much like guy with his horde of guns and ammo, fighting alone, prob thinking he can single handedly “win the war” in your example. It wouldn’t end well.

For such a populace to have any chance at all, it (we the people) would have to start organizing ourselves into much larger structures, complete with a chain of command, communication apparatus, control framework, logistics etc.

If/when the “Boog begins, my first questions will be:

- Where do I report for duty?
- What training and prep will I receive, if any?
- What role (MOS equivalent) will I have?
- What are our specific strategic and tactical objectives?

The second amendment empowers us individually and collectively to defend and preserve our freedoms but, outside of a few militias in each state, we are still just a population of individuals and that won’t cut it for the Boog. For now, a solution based on political pressure and postering is our best bet, at least until these efforts fail and folks start to realize that won’t work. Not saying we will get to that point. I hope can win without firing a shot.
 
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MadDuner

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You don’t kill your dog because it has fleas......

Our “problems” are with corrupted and communist members within our government. There is no reason to even contemplate a strategy for taking on “the whole government”. There are mainly good and patriotic citizens who work in government. They are doing the work that needs to be done to run this country. We might not agree with many of the policies, but the “workers” in government don’t make policy. We need to focus on the enemies within our government. We need to find a way to get them out of their positions of power. Allowing them to remain in power will bring about the thing we all want to avoid - as inevitable as it may seem.

Don’t overlook the corrupt media either. They are another huge part of our “problem”. Again, it’s a selective few that call the shots that are the issue.
 

alpine44

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It's not about voting them out, it's about making your voice heard. The reason we are where we are is because too many were silent for too long. Now is not the time to be hiding in the bushes, silently, now is the time to get the magaphone out and be heard. This prosposed bill is only a piece of paper at this point. It will have to be accepted for consideration and assigned to a committee and then changed, and then submitted or killed. Sit on your hands at your own peril.

I think Virginia is a VERY different place than California.

I wondered, if a baby isn't a baby until it's born (their logic), is an "Assault Rifle" really an "Assault Rifle" if it hasn't assualted anyone yet? That would just make it a rifle :) LOL
It's megaphone. But I like the term MAGAphone.