Buckle up VA. The attorney general is now tone deaf.

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Screw him. I’m local LE and he has no idea what snake he is poking here...
 

2ndamendfan

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This,

"When you talk to those who are in law enforcement and really push them a little bit, like a sheriff or a prosecutor and say, ‘So, really? You mean you’re going to allow violent felons to go ahead and purchase firearms?’ No. They back down pretty quickly. "

is already against the law. The new law will make a bunch more felons, Whether they become violent or not will be up to them.
 

Flyingbullseye

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Who is going to do the enforcing of these laws, if not local law enforcement?
Normally I'd say the state police if local LE or SD don't but someone posted earlier that the VSP is way under funded and under manned. So it will more than likely fall to either federal officers or national guard. A big problem the governor and AG will have is not that the federal officers or NG won't follow the orders but the optics when they do.

If they arrest one or two without incident and the rest fold he's lucky. However if there are multiple incidents where many people show up and stand with said gun owner it could go sideways very quick and get out of hand.

One or two people can be a nut but that narrative falls by the wayside when it's a huge amount of the state population and or majority and news not only gets out of the state what's really going on but it's an election year. That would be a huge gift to Trump if he had to and did step in on the side of gun owners and regular folk.

If the people of Virginia stand strong and united this can go in their favor.
 

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He has big balls because his pussy ass is not going to be anywhere near the front lines. If VA erupts he needs to be one of the first located and held for crimes against the Constitution. This asshole could help lower tension but is knowingly and willingly doing the exact opposite.
 

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Federal officers are not under state control.

The NG, well that appears to be a different story. Although Kent state went so well.

The NG is made up of fellow citizens, be a good question which way they will fall. One nervous Nelly private and it could get ugly fast.
 

Blue Sky Country

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If I was these leftist fucktards' family members, I am going to get as far away from them as I can, for my own safety, in the upcoming months. I would not want to be associated with them in any way...

Once the Rubicon has been crossed, there will be no going back.

Remember: Send bachelors if you want to get froggy...
 
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More than likely it will take watering the tree of liberty to get all the stupid fudds to realize what is at stake and try to take back their state from the Communists that Bloomberg paid to defraud the citizens of their state out of their rights.
 

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Normally I'd say the state police if local LE or SD don't but someone posted earlier that the VSP is way under funded and under manned. So it will more than likely fall to either federal officers or national guard. A big problem the governor and AG will have is not that the federal officers or NG won't follow the orders but the optics when they do.

If they arrest one or two without incident and the rest fold he's lucky. However if there are multiple incidents where many people show up and stand with said gun owner it could go sideways very quick and get out of hand.

One or two people can be a nut but that narrative falls by the wayside when it's a huge amount of the state population and or majority and news not only gets out of the state what's really going on but it's an election year. That would be a huge gift to Trump if he had to and did step in on the side of gun owners and regular folk.

If the people of Virginia stand strong and united this can go in their favor.

VSP should tell state gov to eat a dick.

Had authorities allowed PO to do their jobs in Charlottesville they would not of lost Tprs and a helo.

What happened in Cville was by design and VSP lost people as "collateral damage".
 

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Who is going to do the enforcing of these laws, if not local law enforcement?
If you read history, there has never been a time when those evil folks in charge didn't have a pretty good supply of "Just following orders" types and "Just doing their duty" kind to either willingly or by conscription try to force their evil will upon the people.

The only variable is how dedicated the folks standing up to them are and how well equipped they are.
 

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Cops are coming for your guns. If they refuse as individuals they will find other individuals to do the job, but it will be the cops. Guns will be the new weed and speeding tickets, if your PD wants funding then you nab the contraband/reg violation and stfu about how you got it. They don' t need to bolster the police force at large, they just need a place to store all the confiscated guns.

That's clearly not to say that all cops would do it, but it's certainly to say that the cops as an organization are exactly who would/could/is coming for your currently legally owned and operated weapons. Maybe with help from the NG, but I doubt it unless shit got super rowdy.
 

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They are actively trolling for the next Timothy McVeigh. This is how that shit happens. The only real question is where will the Governor and Attorney General hide when this hits the fan?
+1

Always look for ulterior motives. Don't be a useful idiot for them.
 

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Screw him. I’m local LE and he has no idea what snake he is poking here...
He needs a boot in his ass
 

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Patriots in the police and National Guard shouldn’t refuse a confiscation mission they should embrace it with vigor using the maximum amount of force allowable under the rules of engagement. Burn the houses of barricaded suspects, restrain children hard enough to fracture their arms, muzzle thump passive resisters right in the face where the cameras can see it and canoe active resisters so their family can post the photos.

Then give an interview on Fox saying you are just following orders.

Show people what gun control looks like. Alton Sterling was too much gun control for their soft stomachs. A middle class family would be too much.

And always be on the lookout for a house with shoddy markings so you can hit the wrong one and make the bosses apologize for it.
 

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Strange thing I have noticed is the only info on this I get is from here? No main media coverage what so ever. Just over shadowed by Navy base shootings and demented impeachment hearings? WTF does not any one want to inform the average citizen that their constitutional rights are being stolen a we speak??
I can only guess the media wants to ignore it so when the SHTF they can spin it as extreme right terrorism.
 
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We are being groomed and controlled. The Media is mostly owned by the people who stand to gain the most from disarming America. We must remember: All of this shit is so a Global Oligarchy (which owns and operates our Government via bribed politicians) can enact it's "Final Solution" and assimilate America's Trillions in privately held wealth. They mean to take yer 401K, your home, your savings, and your retirement money. First they have to disarm US. So they hush the Media so we all stay barefoot and frightened of "The Man" coming to take our shit. This is the beginning of the End Game/Final Solution for liquidating America. First they get the guns...then, nothing can stop them.

VooDoo
 

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This voice of experience cant be posted often enough....

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956


Guy might have been a pill otherwise but when he wrote those lines he was nailing it.
 
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I just read a book on Chernobyl.

Mainly interviews with survivors.

Two things struck me.

1. How current the events of WWII were to people of the area. The whole thing was viewed of in the light it was "their war".

2. How often the year 1939 was referenced and and how refusing to do suicidal work during the clean up was a result of Stalin's agents knocking on doors in 1939. Russians have no sense of individual freedom. Everything in their past is based on the collective and "The Motherland"

The whole country of Russia suffers beat dog syndrome individually but becomes an attack dog when united.

We dont have that sort of conditioning in the US.

Have the communists "projected" Soviet conditioning onto our country?
 

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what a lot of folks do not realize is that the “media” is actually the driving force behind this shit. take their names, target those fucktards. picket their houses, their work, confront them. the media is the one giving the leftist politicians their directions.
therefore, the media needs to be addressed, and sooner rather than later.
 

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2A sanctuary counties mean nothing to the Gov. and the A.G.. But if all counties declare Militia activation it will do one of two things: causes our oppressors to back down and re-group or a direct confrontation. Either way it will not end, these communist have an agenda, and they expect their obedient servants to enforce their will on free law abiding citizens. I can only think of one solution, but I will keep it to myself for now.
 

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what a lot of folks do not realize is that the “media” is actually the driving force behind this shit. take their names, target those fucktards. picket their houses, their work, confront them. the media is the one giving the leftist politicians their directions.
therefore, the media needs to be addressed, and sooner rather than later.
And the media is largely owned and operated by leftist oligarchs driving this agenda forward. Ironic how people criticize Trump when he calls out the fucking media for what it really is - a propaganda machine.

The press is anything but free. Mass media needs to be burnt to the ground, it’s ashes bagged.

Then We the People can go after the other two C’s, either by voting or other means.
 

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Strange thing I have noticed is the only info on this I get is from here? No main media coverage what so ever. Just over shadowed by Navy base shootings and demented impeachment hearings? WTF does not any one want to inform the average citizen that their constitutional rights are being stolen a we speak??
I can only guess the media wants to ignore it so when the SHTF they can spin it as extreme right terrorism.
:coffee:

This is a test to see resistance,if they go through with it,which they will and start door to door confiscation,they will then start with the rest of the states.they will probably start with ex-military since they already know who has what by registered owners of set firearms.
things are going to get ugly.
my 2 cents
 

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Many sites like this one are hosted out of amazon and xerox datacenters.

Not being critical of that business model, it is what it is in today's day and age. Just reminding that the light switch can be shut off by someone other than the owner who pays the bill.

Something to ponder seriously and be prepared to see as these corpto-commies execute their power play.
 

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Guys, plenty of tough talk on here with me included. It could get real. We will see who is willing to help either with money or blood. The men at the front will need help.
I am close friends with the owner of a private training range in bordering NC. Several carbine/pistol bays, 500 yard rifle range, vehicle training area, etc. We are figuring out how to 'foster' banned hardware for our VA brothers so that they can keep their arms and continue to train should these laws pass as proposed.

Personally, I think that a boog would have to be a nationwide event if we want to prevail. The federal government can back up the infringements in VA but they cannot support every blue stronghold being under siege*. Therefore, I would rather see the current attack of the left in VA be pushed back with a 'show of force'. But there is now doubt that it is time for all of us to 'mobilize'. A federal ban/confiscation could be less than a year away.

Note: I chose the word siege in its literal sense since anti-2A, anti liberty folks sit almost exclusively in metropolitan areas that could easily be brought to their senses. "You want your food and electricity back? Then, be so kind to wave the constitution as your white flag and hand over the communist traitors you voted for yesterday."
 
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Many sites like this one are hosted out of amazon and xerox datacenters.

Not being critical of that business model, it is what it is in today's day and age. Just reminding that the light switch can be shut off by someone other than the owner who pays the bill.

Something to ponder seriously and be prepared to see as these corpto-commies execute their power play.
Absolutely. Establish personal, local connections. Go to the fieldcraft subforum and peruse the threads about communication via ham, mesh networks. and other de-centralized means. Download/hardcopy everything you may need. It may not be there tomorrow.

If technologically illiterate goat herders can give their 'invadors' grief for decades, we can certainly do better. The determining factor is the will to remain free.
 
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nn8734

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this. and those in it
Yep, burn them too.

To @MTN ‘s point, we also should work to reduce our dependencies on digital mediums by introducing redundancies, such as expanding the use of radio and extending/broadening our human networks.

After all our forefathers managed to defeat the-then largest, most powerful empire on earth to win independence without the internet or Facebook.

Two is one, one is none.
 

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Many sites like this one are hosted out of amazon and xerox datacenters.

Not being critical of that business model, it is what it is in today's day and age. Just reminding that the light switch can be shut off by someone other than the owner who pays the bill.

Something to ponder seriously and be prepared to see as these corpto-commies execute their power play.

Yep. If this site becomes unavailable........
 

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Read Unintended Consequences...

People will get shot dead for certain when the enforcements begin. Bet on the fact that they will begin in the areas frequented by leftist scum...therefore, there will be little pushback which will bolster their effort. Hopefully, the more rural parts of the state will sing a different tune.

A while back I read a book that I really did not like. I am sure some of you read it. It is called the Turner Diaries. It painted things with too broad a brush for me. I do not believe in absolute racism. I do believe that trash comes in all forms of color and I have no trouble with using labels that some would use to paint me a racist. It is too deep within me to change now. I don't really care

I thought the story was too ridiculous. A caricature that could never happen here. It has been a couple of years and now I am not not so sure. Seems like the white folks are the true enemy as they were in the book. Hangings will do a lot to calm things down. Personally, the more violent a manner that is used to kill them will be the most compelling argument to stop them.

It is a damn shame that things have been allowed to get to this point. I see no way out of an armed struggle that will make Spain and Sarajevo look like a summer afternoon in the park.
 
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