I have been issued MK 11's, M110's and a Larue. The Larue was hands down the best, both in reliability and accuracy. In addition, the Larue is the only gas gun I've ever shot that actually was about as forgiving as a bolt gun. Typical example average'd .75 moa with them, though some were a bit more accurate, none were really worse. Very easy to shoot from all positions.
Unfortunately, I'm told the current ones just aren't as good, though I have no personal experience with them. Mine were from before Larue started making everything in house.
I'm playing with the KAC stuff more now, and it certainly is better than my initial experience with the MK 11's. Can't say much more than that at this time, I'm still focused on bolts for now.
Unfortunately, I'm told the current ones just aren't as good, though I have no personal experience with them. Mine were from before Larue started making everything in house.
I'm playing with the KAC stuff more now, and it certainly is better than my initial experience with the MK 11's. Can't say much more than that at this time, I'm still focused on bolts for now.
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NEMO Omen Match 3.0... .300 Win mag. Still breaking it in but shows promise.
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
GW1, Gothic Serpent, GWOT...somewhere in the Magic Kingdom
Remember Vietnam Veterans Day...03/29/2018...Thank you for your service and sacrifice.
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
GW1, Gothic Serpent, GWOT...somewhere in the Magic Kingdom
Remember Vietnam Veterans Day...03/29/2018...Thank you for your service and sacrifice.
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This works well for me. SA M1A Super Match in McMillan USMC. Heavy but accurate and reliable plus "old school" cool. Still sending bad guys to hell in the Box.
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
GW1, Gothic Serpent, GWOT...somewhere in the Magic Kingdom.
" This my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine..."
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
GW1, Gothic Serpent, GWOT...somewhere in the Magic Kingdom.
" This my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine..."
I am searching and researching the .260 gas guns for purchase. This is a great thread for me, thanks again.
I recently saw a F&D and most of the reviews have been very positive except for a long wait time. I have not heard it mentioned here nor have I ever seen a used one for sale.
Has anyone here had any experience with one? If so, whaddaya think??
Thanks,
Steve
I recently saw a F&D and most of the reviews have been very positive except for a long wait time. I have not heard it mentioned here nor have I ever seen a used one for sale.
Has anyone here had any experience with one? If so, whaddaya think??
Thanks,
Steve
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Jeffd
I have 2 F&D rifles. A 6.5 CM and 338 LM. They are both great shooters and no issue with either as far as operation etc. Great company to deal with! I put 3 shots in a Dime at 200 yards with the 6.5 and have the target to prove it. It amazed even me! I know EuroOptic has a couple for sale at their site. In fact, they have a 260 right now.
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Thanks Jeff,
I think that is where I saw it, will have to go back and look. Thinking they must not be bad, people wait a long time for them and never have seen one used for sale. They are also not far for me if there was ever a reason to go to the manufacturer.
Thanks for the review.
Man 338! I saw that on their website. Made me rethink the 260. I have the room to go beyond 1200 and will Saturday. My 260 and 300wm is not having any trouble hitting the center of a silhouette so far. Learning wind is the new learning curve! Sure would be fun to have the 338.. I have never reloaded for the 338, is it like the 50bmg where it is exponentially more expensive to shoot?
Thanks,
Steve
I think that is where I saw it, will have to go back and look. Thinking they must not be bad, people wait a long time for them and never have seen one used for sale. They are also not far for me if there was ever a reason to go to the manufacturer.
Thanks for the review.
Man 338! I saw that on their website. Made me rethink the 260. I have the room to go beyond 1200 and will Saturday. My 260 and 300wm is not having any trouble hitting the center of a silhouette so far. Learning wind is the new learning curve! Sure would be fun to have the 338.. I have never reloaded for the 338, is it like the 50bmg where it is exponentially more expensive to shoot?
Thanks,
Steve
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Wilson, JP, Seekins, in no particular order
We stock the Wilsons and JP's, Seekins are incoming...
We've tried them all at length.....
We stock the Wilsons and JP's, Seekins are incoming...
We've tried them all at length.....
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Yeah lots of self discipline required. Mild recoil makes it tougher. The biggest reason I didn't go with Watchmen...Carbon barrels aren't cheap. Hope to get 2K out of this one depending on final load recipe.
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Honestly it's quite a shame the LMT MWS hasn't been mentioned in this thread. You can find used ones with chromed lined .308 barrels (10k+ bbl life) for less than $2200. Then you buy a 6.5cm barrel for $500 and you have what is probably the most advanced (and easily the most reliable) AR10 on the market.
When you compare the overall quality of a pieced together rifle vs a top tier AR10 (LMT,Knights,Larue) the difference is extremely noticeable when it comes to fit & finish.
When you compare the overall quality of a pieced together rifle vs a top tier AR10 (LMT,Knights,Larue) the difference is extremely noticeable when it comes to fit & finish.
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I’ve been debating on whether or not to buy this rifle for a while now, there’s just not a lot of information out their on it. I had the RRA 6.5 ordered, but came across the APF. I’m leaning towards it just so I don’t have to be fumbling back and forth between DPMS mags and the FAL mags the RRA would take. I’ve talked to the owners of the company and they seem like they’ve got it together. From what little I’ve seen, shooters are reporting 3/4” MOA with factory ammo. What types of groups are you getting? Does it seem like a quality built rifle? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I nominate the FN Scar 17 for short strings of fire. I held under .4Moa out to 660 yards for three shot groups while getting range dope one day. Skinny barrel and slow speed keep it out of long range and longer strings of fire. Awesome hunting rifle though.
I wouldn't overlook the Savage MSR 10 LR. I bought one in a 6.5 CM, and while I'm still breaking it in, it is looking to kick ass. Best trigger I've had on an AR. Floated handguard around the barrel nut and barrel, superb adjustable gas block, side charging handle, machined gas key into bolt carrier, and a extra long gas system. It feels like I'm shooting a bolt gun. Feature set is fantastic regardless of price. Buds guns have them dirt cheap. While I'm still breaking it in (shoot,clean,shoot,clean), I've taken a few 3-4 shot strings with .45-.65 groups with factory Hornady match 140 eld's. Even if I had to buy a custom barrel, this rifles feature set is hard to beat. Hopefully it'll keep on improving as it gets broken in and eventually I reload for it.
I wouldn't overlook the Savage MSR 10 LR. I bought one in a 6.5 CM, and while I'm still breaking it in, it is looking to kick ass. Best trigger I've had on an AR. Floated handguard around the barrel nut and barrel, superb adjustable gas block, side charging handle, machined gas key into bolt carrier, and a extra long gas system. It feels like I'm shooting a bolt gun. Feature set is fantastic regardless of price. Buds guns have them dirt cheap. While I'm still breaking it in (shoot,clean,shoot,clean), I've taken a few 3-4 shot strings with .45-.65 groups with factory Hornady match 140 eld's. Even if I had to buy a custom barrel, this rifles feature set is hard to beat. Hopefully it'll keep on improving as it gets broken in and eventually I reload for it.
I custom built mine and I couldn't be happier. It also allowed me to be patient and shop deals so I built it for a pretty good price.
Mega Arms Nickel Boron receiver set
Magpul PRS Gen 2 Stock
Ergo Delux grip
Radian Talon Ambi Safety
Radian Raptor Charging Handle
SLR Rifleworks Solo Series MLOCK 14"
SLR Rifleworks Sentry 9 Setscrew Gas Block
Geissele High Speed National Match DMR Trigger
JP Silent Capture Spring
JP FMOS Bolt Carrier Group (If doing it again I would probably go for the LMOS)
JP 22" Stainless Barrel with JP Enhanced Bolt
The JP Barrels don't come dimpled for the gas blocks. So if you decide to custom build and go with JP I would see if they would dimple the barrel for you. The place I took my barrel to to get dimpled put the gas block on backwards when they did the measuring for the dimpling. When I installed the gas block it was covering up the port for the gas block and causing it to short stroke. Once I took it back and fought with the damn gun smith about what he did wrong even though it was plain as day he finally fixed it like I told him to and it has run perfectly ever since.
Still pisses me off that he did that though the stupid idiot.
Mega Arms Nickel Boron receiver set
Magpul PRS Gen 2 Stock
Ergo Delux grip
Radian Talon Ambi Safety
Radian Raptor Charging Handle
SLR Rifleworks Solo Series MLOCK 14"
SLR Rifleworks Sentry 9 Setscrew Gas Block
Geissele High Speed National Match DMR Trigger
JP Silent Capture Spring
JP FMOS Bolt Carrier Group (If doing it again I would probably go for the LMOS)
JP 22" Stainless Barrel with JP Enhanced Bolt
The JP Barrels don't come dimpled for the gas blocks. So if you decide to custom build and go with JP I would see if they would dimple the barrel for you. The place I took my barrel to to get dimpled put the gas block on backwards when they did the measuring for the dimpling. When I installed the gas block it was covering up the port for the gas block and causing it to short stroke. Once I took it back and fought with the damn gun smith about what he did wrong even though it was plain as day he finally fixed it like I told him to and it has run perfectly ever since.
Still pisses me off that he did that though the stupid idiot.
I have been incredibly happy with my GA Precision GAP-10. Mine is a 22” Bartlein barrel and the Geiselle SSA-E trigger. I chose the 6.5CM. Topped of with a S&B 3-20 in a Spuhr mount. I shoot the Hornady 147 ELD-M factory ammo, and have had great luck with the 140s as well. Just yesterday, 04/15/18 I was having great success at 1200yds. Wind was definitely blowing, but I was also pretty consistent at 1600yds. Wind being the factor (as always) much more than any deficit in accuracy. Rifle has shot many .5 moa groups, and anymore, I’m not as surprised by them as I used to be. My GAP-10 can hold it’s own against my bolt gun. I will say that I do have quite a bit of time behind gassers, as I get to shoot several times a week, so I have the technique down.
The GA Precision guns are not inexpensive, but the gun, as a system, shoots fantastic. I could not be happier. I’m sure I could have saved some money building it myself, as I have built several sub minute AR-15’s, but I read time and time again about AR-10’s not being the same beast as the 15’s. Read many stories about “help me diagnose my issue with my AR-10”. I decided to play it safe and go with a known option. I’m very happy with the rifle.
The GA Precision guns are not inexpensive, but the gun, as a system, shoots fantastic. I could not be happier. I’m sure I could have saved some money building it myself, as I have built several sub minute AR-15’s, but I read time and time again about AR-10’s not being the same beast as the 15’s. Read many stories about “help me diagnose my issue with my AR-10”. I decided to play it safe and go with a known option. I’m very happy with the rifle.