Ballistic Advantage barrels?

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Anyone know anything about Ballistic Advantage barrels? Looking at putting a heavier barrel on my AR, it's a. 223 wylde and seems nice, spr profile, 1/8 twist, 18", stainless. I've never really done anything to ARs before, I always just used what I was issued. Anyways, any input would be appreciated! Thanks!
 

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Do they still pin their gas blocks on with a roll pin? Have seen some barrels that could shoot and some not.
 

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I have a 18" 223 wylde BA barrel on a Mega ar15. It has shot 2" 3 shot groups at 618 yards and made consistant hits on a 10" plate at 822 yards. I'm happy with it.
 

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I have a 16" hanson 308 and 16" lightweight hanson 6.5 grendel. The 308 shoots well and gave me a little more velocity than my 16" DPMS factory, it also groups better. Finding a load that would hold under moa was not to difficult with hand loads. My Grendel, being a light weight, is a little more finicky but typically holds 1.25 moa or a little better on good days with factory ammo or handloads. Both came with pinned gas blocks.

I have a 10.3" .300 blackout coming tomorrow for a pistol build.

I look at them as a good compromise for performance and cost, I love the fact that they offer pinned gas blocks on most of their barrels.
 

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I have a 22" B A barrel on an AR 10 6.5 Creedmoor build. There's a little north of 1,200 rounds through the barrel and Im more than pleased. Never shot it past 980 yards, but out to that distance its been more than capable.
 

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Do they still pin their gas blocks on with a roll pin? Have seen some barrels that could shoot and some not.
Not the premium line and the 18" DMR/SPR barrel is not one of the barrels with pinned blocks.
. BA barrels are generally dimpled for set screw gas blocks, but I use clamp on style for my builds to avoid any extra stress/pressure points. The pinned barrels are the ones that include their lo-profile gasblock. I always do my own gas block so that it can be adjusted as needed.

Anyone know anything about Ballistic Advantage barrels? Looking at putting a heavier barrel on my AR, it's a. 223 wylde and seems nice, spr profile, 1/8 twist, 18", stainless. I've never really done anything to ARs before, I always just used what I was issued. Anyways, any input would be appreciated! Thanks!
I found my barrels to shoot pretty well (223 Wylde at .5-.7 avg over 4000 rounds; 6.5CM shot .7-1 over about 100 rounds before being really broken in).

I think the biggest issue people have with SS barrels is the time it takes to smooth the gas port as it begins to erode. I basically plan to ignore the first 200 rounds of a gas gun; if it happens to shoot well before then, great! If not, no big deal.
 

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A pinned gas block wont ever move unless the pin comes out and because they use a roll pin the likelihood of that happening is very slim nor that it would cause undue stress on the barrel, certainly not anymore than a set screw style would. While I have not had issues with clamp on or set screw gas blocks on my rifles, I have witnessed guns going down at matches because those gas blocks have moved due to an impact or just loosening up.
 
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I have two of their 18" SPR chromoly barrels that I bought on sale for I think 160 bucks. When I got them one was a great shooter, 3/4 with match loads the other was more like 1.5 or 2. I sent it back and the replacement shoots around an inch which is satisfactory to me.

Also they are on mk12 clone builds and both of them had correct gas ports, not overgassed, no extraction problems, profile was all correct the ops collars fit fine, no problems headspacing etc.

They are a good buy at the price. If you want tiny groups then you shouldn't be rolling the dice on <250$ barrels anyways go for something cut rifled IMHO.
 
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I built a 6.5 CM LR-308 for my Dad in 2015 and then built one for myself in 2016. Both builds were based on the Mega MATEN receiver set. My Dad's rifle used a Krieger custom 22 inch barrel while mine used the Ballistic Advantage 22 inch premium barrel. Neither of these rifles I've built ever had a lick of feeding or cycling issues once the gas block setting was dialed in. My Dad shoots factory 140 ELD-M ammo and I handload with the 140 ELD-M. Both rifles are capable of the same accuracy. Yes, both of these rifles are heavy, but they aren't hunting rifles to be carried a lot.

Below is a link to a thread about some load development I did with mine using the BA barrel. I had a pretty extensive load development thread on the Scout site but apparently it's gone now. I did cross post my results on the 65creedmoor site so it's available there if you are interested.

https://forum.snipershide.com/threa...vantage-barrel-140-eld-m-h4350-loads.6392411/
 
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I’ve seen lots of rave reviews online about them, this thread included.

The ones owned by local shooters have not shot well IMO. Some the owners were happy with the performance, but I would not be.

I have not owned one so feel free to take this with a grain of salt.
 

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I’ve only owned their 6.5 creed and 6.5 Grendel offerings. The 6.5creedmoor barrels are a tremendous value from what I’ve seen so far. Numerous sub half moa groups and 10 shot groups that were under 1 moa.

The 6.5 grendel has been more of a project. I call it the 6.5 Gremlin. The shoulder grows approximately 9-10 thou upon firing factory 123 eld-m’s when using their bolt. The precision of the factory rounds, based on initial tests, was lackluster. Handloads with properly sized brass for the chamber have done well, but I need to test it a bit more due to having a loose suppressor during my last outing.
 
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I have 2. One 16" SS 1:8 .223 wylde, and one 20" SS 1:10 .308 win. Both or mine are modified, but shoot great. I have, as said already by @Subwrx300, seen gas port "smear" happen with 2 ar15 barrels. One is my current ar15 build, which showed no interruption in accuracy and is gone now; and the other was an off brand something or other in .223 wylde, that I burned 2000 rounds through before thoroughly investigating the problem of serious fliers and only 3:5 shots even hitting the paper. Frustrating to say the least. Bang for buck, SS Ballistic Advantage is a good buy.
 
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Post from subwrx is on point. BA, even their match line, is pretty rough out of the box but do shoot pretty well once they are given time to settle in.

Here is one that was used as OE on a complete upper:

New, but test fired:
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1150 rounds and a lot of de-coppering:
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It shoots right around 1 moa, which is very decent I think for what it is.

Port burs, which an indication of poor finish work, are not really a problem if you plan to break the thing in. They shoot out very fast.

The rough throat and some button chatter it had were more of an issue, and the first couple cleanings would pull out blue gobs with an aggressive solvent like Sweet's

All in all, I think they are a decent value and it's worth noting that you get what you pay for.
 
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The 1st, last & only to ever be for me, shoots patterns instead of groups in addition to having shitty threads on the muzzle as well.............18" SS fluted SPR.

Far too many other good barrels to ever go there again.

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I like their barrels and have quite a few on SBR's:
1x 12.5" Hanson 4150CM 6.5 Grendal
2x 8.3" Hanson 4150CM 300 BO
1x 10.3 Hanson 416R 300 BO
1x 10.3 Hanson 4150CM Wylde

All 5 will group better than 1.5 MOA @ 100yds with reasonable quality bulk factory ammo and the kind of low power optics you would expect on a SBR.

Only two I've put better ammo through are the Grendal with 1-8x and 10.3" blackout with 3-12x and both are a little under 1 MOA with supers. The Blackout with subs can only do about 1.2, but I might not of found an ammo it likes yet.

For this price point they are great.

I do have AR barrels that get .5 MOA or slightly better with match grade, but now we are talking hand lapped, cryrogenicly treated and a whole different price point.
 
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I'm not usually about single groups meaning much, but I can say with certainty that whether lucky or maybe before quality changes were made, my Aeroprecision complete upper 18" DMR was the most consistently accurate AR barrel/upper I've owned. It shot most 5 shots groups into .5-.7 or better with very few groups at 1" or worse. At distance it stayed the same (sub minute) out to 400+ yards under calm conditions.

In fact it still holds my personal record for smallest 5-shot group. Picture below. Stars aligned and while I've come close since, even my bolt rifles haven't touched that group yet (they hover in the .2-.3 for best groups).

Sample of one but AP and Ballistic Advantage will always have my vote of confidence until they break it with a crap barrel (which I haven't gotten yet).
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They have way to many QC issues. If you purchase one make sure it is from a reputable dealer that will take care of you because ballistic advantage won’t be quick about responding to you.

You may get one that shoots and you may get one that the chamber isn’t even finished and you will rupture a case when you pull the trigger.
 

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They have way to many QC issues. If you purchase one make sure it is from a reputable dealer that will take care of you because ballistic advantage won’t be quick about responding to you.

You may get one that shoots and you may get one that the chamber isn’t even finished and you will rupture a case when you pull the trigger.
Exactly this. You can read about my recent horror story with Ballistic Advantage here.
 

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Exactly this. You can read about my recent horror story with Ballistic Advantage here.
I just read your story. The barrel that my buddy had issues with would rupture a case when he fired it. It looked like the case was cut perfectly with a razor blade about a quarter inch up from the base. The case was literally cut in two. He fired another round and another puff of smoke. That was it. We pulled the barrel and the chamber was horrible. With the naked eye you could tell it was jacked. I couldn’t believe my buddy didn’t notice that when he installed it.

This is the worst example of several first hand hand experiences that I have witnessed with my own eyes with these barrels. The customer service mirrors what you experienced except he could never get a response. After a week and a half of trying he went back to the retailer and they promptly took care of him.

Spend a little more and get a barrel.
 

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I can tell you for a fact, ANYTIME you call Centiron barrels someone will answer the phone that knows how to help you.
I've never had a problem but had some questions that I needed answered.
Any time I ordered by phone my stuff arrived within 2 days.
 

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I have a 18 inch areo precision .308 assembled upper, which use aero marked ballistic advantage barrels. So far mine hasn't really disappointed or surprised me. I bought it with the intention to swap in a 6 or 6.5 Creedmoor barrel but decided to try it out in .308 for a while first. With federal GMM it is usually about 1.25-1.5 moa at a hundred yards, not great but not horrible for it's price point. It seems to be doing better than when it was brand new so I'm hoping it gets better with some more rounds.
 

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I've been buying their barrels for a couple years now. Have a 16 and 18(SPR) in 5.56, a 9.5 300BO, and just got a 20" heavy fluted 6.5 CM Barrel. All of the above have performed beautifully. Counting mine, I've put together 2 guns with their 18" and both printed consistently around 1/2" at 100 yards shooting the same ammo from the same position on the same day, sandbagged to hell. I don't shoot for groups a lot but as far as I can tell they've never limited me on the steel. I've never shot the BO for groups but it has been Minute-of-Deer twice now (both in the same location ~ 100 yards from the blind) shooting HSM 110gr. I've rang steel out to 300 with it but it gets more time in the bush than on the range. The 6.5 I should be torquing down tomorrow. When the optic for that build shows up and I get any gremlins worked out I'll report on the group (Ordered some Beck Ammunition 140 grain ELD-X). You can probably already guess what my expectations are though. TBH my experience with the 18" 5.56s with their barrels is what moved me to build a 6.5 gas gun instead of a bolt gun.
 
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I just finished my 3rd 6.5 Creedmoor AR, the second build using a Ballistic Advantage barrel. This time I used an Aero Precision M5 builder set (cerakoted FDE by a friend), Brownells nitride 308 bcg, Ballistic Advantage 18 inch fluted premium barrel, Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16x42 (temporarily), Magpul UBR gen 2 (also cerakoted FDE by my friend), SLR Sentry 8 clamp on adjustable gas block, Schmid Tool & Engineering Corp nickle teflon trigger (Brownells), JP yellow reduced power spring set, JP 308 polished carbine spring, Spikes Tactical AR-15 H3 buffer and PVA Mad Scientist muzzle brake I had laying around.

After shooting a box of factory Hornady 140 ELD-M ammo to do a quick break-in, tweaking the adjustable gas block and zeroing the scope, I shot two 5-shot groups of my 140 ELD-M load I developed for my 22 inch 6.5 Creedmoor (one group pictured). The first group went into .63 moa, the second went .64 moa. Ejection was about 3 - 4 o'clock and bolt hold open. No cycling or feeding issues whatsoever. The scope and trigger will be replaced when funds allow. The Schmid T&E trigger is a pretty damn good trigger for the money (e.g. $37 @ Brownells) and is better than the ALG QMS triggers I have in other builds. I plan to cerakote the barrel and muzzle brake graphite black but didn't want to put the money into the barrel until I knew it grouped well. Suffice it to say, it will be pulled and cerakoted. LOL

Now the pics...