I would agree. Nothing stands out in mind about the scope except mine has a parallax issue. Not trying to dump on teh thread but passing word that the dealer I spoke to said he has heard of 4 with the same problem. The cross hairs move if you move your eye behind the scope. I have been chasing accuracy issues with a CZ and I think most of it came from the scope. I can get the cross hairs to move 2 inches at 100 yards by moving my head around.I'd rate it as normal. It's not a finicky eyebox to me.
I havent really turned it down to 4 other than playing with it initially but I dont remember any tunneling or unexpectedly poor image issues. I have it mounted on my 22 bu I think it would be great for a budget plinker. Just dont expect it to be the quality of a thousand dollar scope and I expect you would be pleased. Its a nice scope in a pleasant package for the 200 upper something I paid for it. Blows a crap nikon out of the water.Interested in the Talos BTR 4-14 for some mid range AR plinking. Anyone have some feedback on this model? Does it tunnel much on the low end?
How did you get your hands on an Ares so Soon? My pre-order site, USA optics, is now saying may or june for delivery.I just began testing of the new Ares today. So far this is a solid winner. Outstanding glass and functions well. Rifle is zeroed and ready for a 10 mile ruck and match this weekend. Results coming soon, this will be a great match to put the scope thru its paces.
I've ran one of these and have a few customers running them as well all very happy. No tunneling down at 4x and glass is bright and clear. If you are interested shoot me a pm and I'll take good care of you.Interested in the Talos BTR 4-14 for some mid range AR plinking. Anyone have some feedback on this model? Does it tunnel much on the low end?
where do you live so i can buy you a beer?Sure would be nice to get the Athlon sponsored fan boys out of every damn Athlon thread so people asking legit questions could get legit answers from folks who paid for their scopes and didn't get a free fucking handout so they would be fan boys.
Sure would be nice to get the Athlon sponsored fan boys out of every damn Athlon thread so people asking legit questions could get legit answers from folks who paid for their scopes and didn't get a free fucking handout so they would be fan boys.
As far as I know Athlon does not give anything away for free. They have a few test scopes out but they are required to be sent back after a period of time.Sure would be nice to get the Athlon sponsored fan boys out of every damn Athlon thread so people asking legit questions could get legit answers from folks who paid for their scopes and didn't get a free fucking handout so they would be fan boys.
The turrets are a bit better on the new Cronus BTR as well as a revised reticle and battery compartment cover. That said I've been running one of the original Cronus and the turrets have been very positive after changing the grease on the orings(which Athlon has now done as well).I am really thinking about buying a chronos. Is it true that they have a new generation that has better, more substantial detents in the turret clicks? and was the original run of scopes turrets mushy to the point of being hard to use? or are people just finding certain things to critique?
Good luck at the CBC. I was supposed to go but had emergency back surgery and had to drop out due to the ruck portion. I ran a Cronus a bit last year and it held up great. I loved everything about the scope but the mushy turrets, and sold it about a week before the o-ring grease video popped giving people a substantially better turret feel. Turrets while a tad mushy, still tracked true for me out to 1100 yards. Never tested it further. Glass and illumination were fantastic. Really like the reticles they are using as well. Hope the company continues to gain traction and turns into a Vortex Optics style success story. I am really interested in the Ares to replace my Premier Light Tactical 3-15x50 on a light weight long range hunting rifle. I would add 3 oz to pickup 12 more mag range and a solid reticle. Keep us posted on your findings after this weekend! Good luck.I just began testing of the new Ares today. So far this is a solid winner. Outstanding glass and functions well. Rifle is zeroed and ready for a 10 mile ruck and match this weekend. Results coming soon, this will be a great match to put the scope thru its paces.
I would agree. Nothing stands out in mind about the scope except mine has a parallax issue. Not trying to dump on teh thread but passing word that the dealer I spoke to said he has heard of 4 with the same problem. The cross hairs move if you move your eye behind the scope. I have been chasing accuracy issues with a CZ and I think most of it came from the scope. I can get the cross hairs to move 2 inches at 100 yards by moving my head around.
Anyhow athlon wants me to box her up and send it back in for repair or replacement. Just to be clear, this is the 6-24X50 in MIL FFP one.
I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion. The Ares BTR 4.5-27 is at the top of my list but I really don't like the MIL reticle. The opposing hash marks drive me crazy. Maybe it's not so bad actually looking through the scope but looking at it on a monitor bugs me.I'll be testing out the ARES and I'm not sponsored or affiliated with Athlon at all. I intend on testing the tracking, resolution, build quality and my likes/dislikes. Like many, I'm a diligent consumer who wants to get the most bang for their buck. My assessment and review will be that of the scope, free from any bias due to monetary or material gains.
thank you for your review. cant wait to see reviews compared to some trusted brands that are out right now.I was able to take the ARES out yesterday. It was rainy and overcast, so I wasn't able to really do any great optical tests. There were several other Athlon scopes on other rifles at the range, as well as a PST Gen 1 and Burris XTRII. Unfortunately, the rain forced a lot of guys to leave before I got a chance to do a side by side comparison.
First impressions: The glass is clear and the resolution seems to be pretty good to great for a scope in this price range. I think another poster has mentioned that the lower end Athlons, without "HD" glass, were closer to S&B glass than most would think. I'm going to have to disagree with that. In my experience, the "pop", brightness and contrast is what the higher end scopes provide over the low to mid priced scopes. During low light evaluation on Friday, I thought that the scope was clear, but not as bright as my Gen 1 razor. Yeah, I know, 35mm tube vs a 30mm, but it was fairly apparent when doing a side by side comparison.
I didn't have solid dope for the load/upper combo that I was using, but I was able to see my misses in the wet dirt on the berm. Once dialed in, I was having no issue connecting on a 6" plate at 546yds. I'll try to do a tall target test when the weather is more favorable to confirm the adjustment accuracy since my unknown dope can't be used to substantiate the tracking.
The turrets are audible, but they aren't as tactile as something like a NXS or Razor. The demo doesn't have .5mil markings on the turret to help for visual confirmation when dialing fast, but the production models are said to have this modification. This would certainly be a welcomed feature. My SIII and PST's are at my dads house, so I'll try and compare the turrets head to head when I visit in 2 weeks or so.
I'll definitely be putting it to greater use over the next few weeks. If anyone has any specific questions, please feel free to ask.
Gratuitous pic of an ARES in the wild
Does the BTR model require the grease change on the turrets?The turrets are a bit better on the new Cronus BTR as well as a revised reticle and battery compartment cover. That said I've been running one of the original Cronus and the turrets have been very positive after changing the grease on the orings(which Athlon has now done as well).
Thanks TripleD. Although your optics do sound promising, i may have to just wait a little longer.Shin95,
The glass in the Cronus is up there with the Gen 2. The Cronus BTR with the reticle that JADEprecision helped design makes it much better than the initial Cronus IMO. For the price, I highly doubt you would be disappointed in the glass in the Cronus.
I'm certainly not going to argue over what I witnessed and I stand by my statement that I don't agree with them being closer to S&B than one might think. That is a very bold statement and likely sets unrealistic expectations. Using your caveat about getting more for your extra money spent would allow a lot of tactical scopes to be very close to upper tier scopes if certain features were overlooked. I just did a basic comparison to the scope in question and a 1300$ optic that I had laying around. The difference was noticeable to me and 2 others that were with me.
I'm certainly not trying to dog the scope and have stated that I was able to see my misses at 546yds, make corrections and then impacts. I just wouldn't set expectations too high. You yourself have said that people shouldn't expect a $ scope to compete with a $$$$ scope, yet draw a comparison to an upper tier scope.
I'll look at resolution and the eye of once I have better conditions and the ability to setup some charts.
When you see an Athlon post your like Donald Trump seeing Twitter, you can't resist. Wished you would take a couple months off and let the non fan boys sort it outMy caveat in this "context", as plainly stated, was the glass is much closer to what most would think. Meaning exactly this, that the glass in the Talos and Argos BTR's are exceptional for the money and good compared to a S&B which is excellent, thus the rating, that's all, no need to repeat myself. I didn't state that the quality level of these lower $$$ scopes in question were near as high as S&B$$$$ at anytime and anybody should be able to discern and make an easy distinction. So no, it's not misleading in the least. I even gave examples of previous owned $1500-$2000 scopes that didn't have great glass???!!!
Okay let's drop the subject since it's obvious nothing will be resolved. I've got my opinion and yours is different, such is life.
"""""Edit, I feel compelled to elaborate on my other caveat from the scout forum. Again "context is everything". That caveat " don't expect $$$ scopes to compare with $$$$ scopes". I define this caveat as in the "fit finish and feel as well as refinement". In context to Athlons Talos and Argos BTR scopes. Wherein the fit, finish and feel of these inexpensive scopes lacks the refinement of the lower priced $$$$ scopes. But!!! The reticles, glass and tracking are equal to or can exceed some of the lower priced $$$$ scopes.
The below paragraph is about a brand and model of scope that tracks well according to reports but is known for having substandard glass. Also known for having great fit, finish and feel.
Interesting timing, I just got back from shooting long range a few minutes ago. Met a guy I hadn't before who has one of the most popular $1300 scopes here on the Hide. He was angry at his entire experience with this certain Co. The original scope could not even be focused so he sent it back. The Co sent it back to him over a month later saying it was within spec. He sent it back again saying something had to be done. The end result being they sent him another brand new scope with a different reticle which he liked better. The glass seemed fine until the very first shot when the scope went blurry. Turned out his 100Y target would only focus with the 300Y parallax setting and at every shot the scope had to be refocused. He's so discouraged that he hasn't sent this one back yet. Too bad I didn't have one of my cheap Athlons with me to show him. He did like my S&B.