Anyone on a Keto diet? I'll probably die, but oh well.

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Another helpful tip I used. I love ice cream but it is really high in carbs. So instead now I take heavy whipping cream and a favorite frozen fruit for me its blue berry's and put them together in a bowl and hand mix if you stir long enough it turns in to almost a ice cream texture and is really good.
That sounds great.

We have chocolate cheese, at our Hyvee market. It is just cheese and cocoa. Tastes just like fudge. great on its own, it is best kept in the freezer, and can be eaten straight out of it.

A real treat my wife came up with is to take a couple slices of the chocolate cheese, put home made whip cream on it (just heavy cream, whipped), and then top it with a few blueberries and strawberries, or some raspberries and blackberries. It is pretty incredible, and a real summer treat.

I know the cheese thing sounds weird, but it is totally legit. If you don't tell someone what it is, they just say that it is nice fudge, not too thick.
 

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Down to 183.5 # since first post.

Ive got the tight body of a svelte grade school boy......

My wife must feel like a 5th grade science teacher outed in the Daily Mail for banging her students.

I think my penis appears larger due to the shrinking gunt.
 

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Down to 183.5 # since first post.

Ive got the tight body of a svelte grade school boy......

My wife must feel like a 5th grade science teacher outed in the Daily Mail for banging her students.

I think my penis appears larger due to the shrinking gunt.
Where did you start at?
 

pmclaine

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Where did you start at?
I was calling myself 205 but it was probably 210 in reality.

I dont think Ive ever been into full ketosis. I credit eating cleaner cutting carbs with the loss.

Workouts have been better.

Kids are out of school and they go to a pool daily.

On the days I have to watch them Ill add swimming an hour a day.

Swimming greatest excercise known to man, it will require I feed sticks of lard to fuel myself.
 
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I was calling myself 205 but it was probably 210 in reality.

I dont think Ive ever been into full ketosis. I credit eating cleaner cutting carbs with the loss.

Workouts have been better.

Kids are out of school and they go to a pool daily.

On the days I have to watch them Ill add swimming an hour a day.

Swimming greatest excercise known to man, it will require I feed sticks of lard to fuel myself.
I started at 276.4 5 1/2 weeks ago. At 256.6 this morning, just a haircut away from -20. I used to get the shakes when I didn't keep the carb train running. In many ways it was like a diabetic reaction, but I never tested anywhere close to diabetes, even with my high weight. I don't get the shakes/crap feel from the carb low anymore, which is probably the absolute best part of this for me. Got quite aways to go, but the start is looking good so far.
 
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pmclaine

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I started at 276.4 5 1/2 weeks ago. At 256.6 this morning, just a haircut away from -20. I used to get the shakes when I didn't keep the carb train running. In many ways it was like a diabetic reaction, but I never tested anywhere close to diabetes, even with my high weight. I don't get the shakes/crap feel from the carb low anymore, which is probably the absolute best part of this for me. Got quite aways to go, but the start is looking good so far.
When you burn fat you smooth out the energy curve.

I note the same thing. When it was yogurt and cereal for breakfast at about 1100 I was STARVING and feeling shaky. 1100 is work out time and often it was "Do I eat or work out first?"

Id always opt for the work out knowing if I ate I would not want to work on a full stomach. The workouts suffered probably as I was low energy.

Now its morning bacon and eggs doused with the liquid fat and coconut yogurt with berries.

At 1100 I have a slight "alert" hunger and Im ready to go.

The more you have to lose the faster you lose at the start.

I should be plateauing soon. My insurance company BMI is probably 135 or something stupid but because I can lift more than a coat hanger I would never get there.

When I was in my bestest shape I hit 179 and could wear 28 waist pants. That took a lot of running and I was feeling a lot more hunger than eating a calorie restrictive diet.

It probably wasnt as healthy as this program.
 

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That sounds great.

We have chocolate cheese, at our Hyvee market. It is just cheese and cocoa. Tastes just like fudge. great on its own, it is best kept in the freezer, and can be eaten straight out of it.

A real treat my wife came up with is to take a couple slices of the chocolate cheese, put home made whip cream on it (just heavy cream, whipped), and then top it with a few blueberries and strawberries, or some raspberries and blackberries. It is pretty incredible, and a real summer treat.

I know the cheese thing sounds weird, but it is totally legit. If you don't tell someone what it is, they just say that it is nice fudge, not too thick.
That sounds good I'll have to give it a try!
 

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Unless you have cancer, a metabolic disorder, or are pre-diabetic, there is nothing exceptional about keto. In fact, it's a giant PITA and you feel like shit going into Ketosis.

My suggestion is to do whatever you can stick to -- tailor your carbs to your activity level and around your workouts. High GI carbs post-workout, fibrous low GI carbs most of the time. Calories are king for whatever your goal is.
 

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Unless you have cancer, a metabolic disorder, or are pre-diabetic, there is nothing exceptional about keto. In fact, it's a giant PITA and you feel like shit going into Ketosis.

My suggestion is to do whatever you can stick to -- tailor your carbs to your activity level and around your workouts. High GI carbs post-workout, fibrous low GI carbs most of the time. Calories are king for whatever your goal is.
Meh! I dont think many that go Keto actually get into ketosis.

I pissed on a few keto sticks and got a light color but nothing to indicate high ketones.

Im thinking the big benefit is just cutting out a ton of processed food and eliminating the extra carbs that turn to fat.

I felt "keto flu" when I started but Im thinking that was my body asking "Hey WTF where is the easy energy?"

This has been easy to stick to. I dont count fat ratios or carbs.

I eat whatever I want as long as its low in sugar carbs.

The benefit is cutting fat and a more parabolic energy curve rather than peaks and valleys.

Point being you are sceptical of it but facts are t works if not for the exact reason people think.

This is from the perspective of someone not prescribed this diet.

If prescribed the Leto diet than you had better follow the regimen better than I do.

Even still I'm losing good weight.
 
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Not to highjack, but for those who can't Keto- look into RP. Renaissance Periodization is a company that make meal plan templates that you follow. You have to weigh your food and all that, but nothing is cut out and you are eating frequently. Company is run by a bunch of registered dieticians, PHDs and workout fanatics. I have to get back on their templates- I was shedding weight and my lifts were either staying the same or improving and there was no "fog"
 
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Ultimately, it all comes down to goals. Keto works very well to lose weight if sparing muscle isn't your primary goal. You want insulin high during times of high muscular stress to shuttle nutrients for recovery. (pre/intra/post-workout windows)

Obviously, the goal of Keto is to keep insulin levels low to remain catabolic, which is why even high protein isn't recommended. Anyone who doesn't have physique/muscularity/strength goals would probably be just fine doing Keto if they can stick to it. It's incredibly difficult to lose muscle mass if you don't have much to begin with AND you're above +12% bodyfat.

One quick point -- in a caloric deficit, macro ratios are pretty much a moot as long as you're getting enough protein. If you decide to have a refeed/cheat day, there is a distinct advantage to going with high carb/low fat, in regards to Leptin, glycogen buffer, etc....

You're dead on PMclaine -- when people go on a keto diet, they instantly remove almost every snack food. (No chips, sleeves of oreos, ice cream) That will instantly improve the diet of 90% of people and is why so many have success on this type of diet.
 

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Not to highjack, but for those who can't Keto- look into RP. Renaissance Periodization is a company that make meal plan templates that you follow. You have to weigh your food and all that, but nothing is cut out and you are eating frequently. Company is run by a bunch of registered dieticians, PHDs and workout fanatics. I have to get back on their templates- I was shedding weight and my lifts were either staying the same or improving and there was no "fog"
RP is a fantastic resource! I've been using their physique and diet templates for a long time now. Mike Israetel, James Hoffman, Greg Nuckols, and the bunch are great to listen to and have an abundance of knowledge.
 

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Unless you have cancer, a metabolic disorder, or are pre-diabetic, there is nothing exceptional about keto. In fact, it's a giant PITA and you feel like shit going into Ketosis.

My suggestion is to do whatever you can stick to -- tailor your carbs to your activity level and around your workouts. High GI carbs post-workout, fibrous low GI carbs most of the time. Calories are king for whatever your goal is.
I disagree with Keto being a PITA, I actually find it to be the easiest diet I've ever done. Hell I get to eat bacon and eggs anytime I want! and STEAK! I guess it depends on what types of foods you like. I've always been a protein lover so it hasn't been too bad. The hardest part has been learning to eat brocolli and asparagus but I'm actually to the point that I like them now too. I do miss me some ice cream from time to time however.
 
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I disagree with Keto being a PITA, I actually find it to be the easiest diet I've ever done. Hell I get to eat bacon and eggs anytime I want! and STEAK! I guess it depends on what types of foods you like. I've always been a protein lover so it hasn't been too bad. The hardest part has been learning to eat brocolli and asparagus but I'm actually to the point that I like them now too. I do miss me some ice cream from time to time however.
Remember feeling guilty about eating the charred fat on the edges of a great New York sirloin?

No more.

I made fresh vanilla whipped cream with strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries the other night. It was as good as ice cream with no carbs.
 

pmclaine

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I don't see where Keto spares muscle.

I do see where Keto could be a detriment if you need faster energy.

I would go off Keto for an endurance or extreme moderate duration workout. If I was going on a ruck hike I would add some carbs to fuel the body.

But for daily reasonably strenuous workouts I haven't had an energy deficit.

I'm not looking for speedo body it seems that the criticism of Keto may be related to not being the best for the muscle and fitness magazine look if that's what you want to attain.
 
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