Anyone had any ongoing issue with a chassis?

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Hello to the hide. This is my first post, and I will try to be as light on this subject as I can. I will leave out all names and company, they didn't seem to be too concerned with the situation anyways so I'm just venting.

To start off I'm very budget minded, so buying a chassis took a bit of mental power to drop that kind of change in the first place. I have owned, and still do several of the Savage Axis heavy barreled rifles. With hand loads and a little time to get the terrible stock trigger down to two pounds, they have all shoot .3-.4s consistantly. That's good dollar per horspower in my world when dealing with under $250 rifles. So I thought why not go all out on a budget rifle.

The build. I started off with a 308 action I had $35 in after the rest was sold off, the heavy barrel being the biggest contributor. I've always love the 7s, just not the all to common belted rem mag, so I decided on the 7/300 wsm. Found an 8 twist lilja 3 grove blank for $200, and a reamer/hs gauge for about the same. I do all of my own stunts as I'm a machinist of 14 years now.

I had it set in me head I was going to drop the coin on a chassis for once. So a year ago I ordered a chassis. These are a bit limited for this platform by the way, and I understand why. Moving on. First chassis comes in with the safey tang area machined into the buffertube well. A couple calls and being talked to like an infant the said they would build me a "custom chassis" as all the rest on the shelf looked exactly the same. The second time it shows up with two different finishes and not grip. After another call and being talked down to they agreed to fix that. The third time seemed to be the charm, minus the greasy prints all over it out of spite I assume. Oh well, bit my tounge and went on.

Fast forward a year to last night. I finally have the action assembled and ready to start load work minus finishing the brake. I throw my floater swfa on it to start getting the stock fitted. Break all the hardware loose and it feels like everything has blue locktite, a bit odd but of well. After I get all the hardware out it's apparent the hardware was ran into the bead blasted holes...still full of media.

Am I the only person that has had a bad experience with a claimed top notch chassis company? I have never heard or read a bad word edge wise about them, which is what sealed my decision. Anyway, that has been resolved with a trip to the hardware store and a few minutes chasing all threaded holes. I hope to get the brake done in the next week or so so I can work up some loads and HOPEfully enjoy being around this thing for once.
 

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Man, that sucks! If they aren't willing to make it right I think it would be okay to let us know who the manufacturer is so the rest of us can stay away.
 

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Looks like an element

A ceracoted one at that.

you really should talk to them
They’re customer service is phenomenal
They will do their best to resolve Any situation

I have two of them with absolutely no issues.
A first gen savage and a second gen 700

did you buy directly from XLR?

Main players are probably at SHOT
 
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I did by straight from the source, yes. After the phone calls I went through the first of the year, I will not call back. I made it clear the chassis was for a rifle that wasn't yet built. In that same call I was assured it would "shoot 10x better than the rifle did from the factory"(another issue), and "it's only a $200 rifle".

My main issue was he was set on replay telling me why the problems didn't matter for my "$200 rifle" rather than trying to work with me. They did resolve the first issues after I asked for a refund if they wouldn't be fixed. Maybe I'm expecting too much from what I thought was a top end company. In the companys defense I did only exchange calls with the one that took my order(yes he is at shotshow). Last night just started the fire again.

Also, the finish is raw blasted aluminum, as ordered. The second time it was sent back was after another exchange of being told the finish doesn't matter since ceracoat would stick fine. I have no plans on "finishing" the surface, that was also made clear when ordered.
 

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I do have a technical question. I may be better served asking in loading, but I'll save the space if possible.

Has anyone ever lost accuracy going from tuperware to a chassis? I don't know if it's harmonics or what, but I have a load(105 amax over h1000) dialed in to my 243 heavy barrel. Shoots consistent .3-.4 at 100, and 1/2 moa or better out to 675(furthest shot distance). I dropped in the chassis just for giggles and it goes straight to patterning, not grouping.

The first pic is a 5 shot with cold bore(flyer) at 100yd. Second is at 200yd in the chassis, the hpbt group being the 223, the pattern being the 243.

Am I going to have to revisit the 243 loads if it goes into a chassis? This has been a solid load for over 300rnds and a couple steel matches to 500yd.
 

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A barreled action can have different harmonics/vibrations depending on how its mounted. So, yes, it's possible for a "good load" to not shoot as well when the barreled action is moved from a stock to a chassis, or some other combination.
 

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A barreled action can have different harmonics/vibrations depending on how its mounted. So, yes, it's possible for a "good load" to not shoot as well when the barreled action is moved from a stock to a chassis, or some other combination.
That was kind of my thinking, just not what I'm used to seeing. Being the 7/300s permanent home, I guess I will dive into that issue with the next chassis and the 243.
 

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I continue to find the less I touch my mdt acc the better it shoots , not much of a shocker the weakest link in the system is me . But since someone has to touch the trigger I am elated I get to be that someone for another day . God I love any day at the range .
 
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Hey @winniethepooh thanks for the tag (even though it isn't one of ours 😬 😂). @Dobbs02si to answer your question, chassis can be tricky and seeing an accuracy difference (both good and bad when transitioning from a stock to a chassis, or vice-versa or even from a chassis to a chassis) can for sure happen! The Axis is a tricky one (as we found out the hard way) due to the fact that the rear action screw hold the trigger assembly together, and you have to be very careful not to cause any undue stress on those components when putting it in something rigid, like a solid, aluminum chassis.

I am sorry to hear of your woes with any other company and I am sure that you just caught one of their guys on a bad day, but I will say that as far as I know, we offer the following chassis for your Savage Axis II LA RH:
- LSS Gen2 Savage Axis LA RH
- ESS Chassis System Savage Axis LA RH
- Oryx Chassis System Savage Axis LA RH

They all use the same bedding system that we believe will help you shoot better :D

- Josh
 
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Thank you for the info as I was unaware of the ess offering, but it is a little out of my price range given the platform I'm working with. I love the lss with the 15" fore. I prefer a longer fore vs an extension for a bipod/bag rider.

As for the oryx, do you offer different color panels? I didn't see an option on the site, but I have seen them on 3rd party sites. Also, is there any provision for mounting a rear bag rider?

Thank you again, and I look forward to doing business with you in the future.
 
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Someone translate for me. What was the problem? I read it 5 times and have no idea wtf is going on.
 

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Someone translate for me. What was the problem? I read it 5 times and have no idea wtf is going on.
I can’t sleep, am bored so I’ll give it a try, lol...

Orig post: One year ago, OP discovers QC issues with his then-new XLR chassis; op not happy with manufacturer’s initial demeanor/responses to his complaints...came here to vent frustration upon discovering more QC issues with said XLR chassis more recently. May acquire MDT chassis in the future

Post 11: precision degrades when B/A in chassis vs stock; op seeking input for remedy(ies) - answered satisfactorily by ShtrRdy
 

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Thank you for the info as I was unaware of the ess offering, but it is a little out of my price range given the platform I'm working with. I love the lss with the 15" fore. I prefer a longer fore vs an extension for a bipod/bag rider.

As for the oryx, do you offer different color panels? I didn't see an option on the site, but I have seen them on 3rd party sites. Also, is there any provision for mounting a rear bag rider?

Thank you again, and I look forward to doing business with you in the future.
No worries and yes, we try to support as many inlets as we reasonably can in a lot of our chassis.

For the Oryx chassis, we offer different side panels that can be found by following this link and clicking the drop down for different colours. There are no current provisions for attaching a bag rider, but that may change shortly.

If you have more questions, feel free to PM me anytime.

Josh
 

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Thanks again Josh.

308pirate-If only they made the bravo for these terds. I worked into a trade about a year ago on a howa 1500 308 in an fde bravo...by far the most comfortable rifle I have been behind. My dad would mention something in 308 everytime we talked, so I worked up 168gr load and gave it to him. He loves it was well.