And so it begins...

MarinePMI

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Veer_G

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This is what I was alluding to in my thread about the crap last weekend.

It seems completely tit for tat in PDX at this point, more pride-based and personal than political. Chasing PDX shitheels like Luís Marquez around is becoming Tom and Jerry cartoon theater. If you don't recognize the name, look him up on YouTube.

But, if it were like this in most population centers on a constant basis, I might think us much closer to an irremediable tipping point. The vídeos from last night were fairly violent; think long and hard, Eliot Ness. Are you, are we entirely comfortable with the consequences of a blood oath?

As might go my brothers, there would go I, but I don't think that most can see through the glitzy reflections of romantic notions of glamorous glory.
 
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diverdon

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So long as the flag they are burning is one they bought with their money and not one they stole, I would be inclined to allow them to continue to reveal themselves. The only rally I intend to attend is the one on November Sixth, so that's a moot point.

As much as I love my country had Hillary followed Obummer into the WH, it might me me burning flags. It put a tear in my eye to type that, yet our Republic is too great not to morn its passing with some solemn ceremony. Thanks be to God for the wisdom of our founding fathers and the electoral college, giving our Republic one last chance. Please God, give us the wisdom not to waste that chance on November Sixth.
 

Nik H

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I don’t believe for a second that any of us is hoping for or relishes a start of constant violence. I do believe that the crazies on both sides are becoming more emboldened. The crazies on the left are being paid to seek out the crazies on the right.

For now it is limited to larger, super leftist population centers like Portland, SF, etc. when shit hits the fan, it will be in these kind of places. How soon it will migrate to more suburban and rural areas is of interest. What will also remain of keen interest to people like us is whether these episodes propagate or remain as isolated events. The propagation effect is likely to trigger a Federal response which would not be good.

It continues to be a waiting game.
 

pmclaine

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I think "the crazies on both sides" are actually paid and supported by the same evil puppet master that supports all this in the name of the party that is losing its grip.

Sorry but it looks like the DNA pool being dipped in does not go beyond that of the nuclear family.

If Antifa/BLM/or Nazis hold a rally and no one shows up does it have an effect?

No.

Therefore if you want to stir shit and no one is giving a shit because they are working for the first time in 6 years and they get the giggles when they look at their 401Ks than you must pay someone to oppose your rally and create interest where there is none.

Vote and get everyone you know to vote. Offer to buy them a sammich if they wont go vote on their own.
 

pmclaine

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As a side note....

This shit only exists in shithole liberal towns where the shitty mayors allow it to happen.

Law suits can be brought for failure to provide service or failure to provide equal protection under the law.

There needs to be more of these fuck stick mayors held accountable and they need to be held civilly liable.

Civil liability means the mayors assets get attached. He doesnt get to hide behind the comfort of knowing the tax payers pay their own court awards for suffering abuse.

Cops are not protected from civil rights violations neither should elected officials be.

That Trump supporter pelted by eggs a few years ago while the police barred her from seeking safety inside a building is due for a payout and that case is moving along the failure to provide service line.

Sure cops SCOTUS says LEO have no obligation to act but until the courts decide otherwise the govt has no legal option to deny service to a tax payer which is what the mayor did when he told the PO to stand down.

As is oft stated this shit wont stop until someone is in cuffs on a ride to the jail.

Rule of law needs to rule.
 
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Veer_G

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So long as the flag they are burning is one they bought with their money and not one they stole, I would be inclined to allow them to continue to reveal themselves. The only rally I intend to attend is the one on November Sixth, so that's a moot point.

As much as I love my country had Hillary followed Obummer into the WH, it might me me burning flags. It put a tear in my eye to type that, yet our Republic is too great not to morn its passing with some solemn ceremony. Thanks be to God for the wisdom of our founding fathers and the electoral college, giving our Republic one last chance. Please God, give us the wisdom not to waste that chance on November Sixth.
Dunno that I could resist temptation, hearing some diseased post-adolescent cunt shouting "Fuck your flag!" and seeing it burning.


That's our flag. No matter who bought it with cash, someone else paid the price so that it could continue to wave.
 

Greg Langelius *

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Flags are supposed to burn, it's the legitimate means for retiring worn flags.

The difference is the degree of respect being demonstrated.

IMHO, there's very little difference between what's going on in the NFL and what's going on the streets of Portland. It's all just fuel for the same kinds of fires that burned the Buddhist Monks in Vietnam. In the end it was just another form of suicide that nobody of any consequence paid attention to except the newsie ghouls.

The water in the frog stew pot just keeps getting warmer...

Hop or cook, your choice.

Greg
 
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W54/XM-388

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Dunno that I could resist temptation, hearing some diseased post-adolescent cunt shouting "Fuck your flag!" and seeing it burning.
That's our flag. No matter who bought it with cash, someone else paid the price so that it could continue to wave.
Just photograph & video them, then find out who they are and add it to the list.
You may find in the future the opportunity arises to legally and non violently make them really regret their actions.
Or you now are starting up your list for passengers on our free ocean watching tour flights....
 

W54/XM-388

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Making lists is not productive (they go out of date quickly), and can be used as evidence of prior intent.
Greg
Our Communist foes are pretty good at making lists and then using them to attack people at every possibly turn when trying to get a job, or a political appointment, or run in politics or just about anything else....

It seems that it would only be fair to do the same thing back to them... you know next time they want some security clearance out come the pictures of them burning a flag and chanting death to America or such
 

XLR308

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If they don't prosecute the shithead that defaced the memorial then there really is only one other course of action that should have allready been done.
A good attitude tune up followed by pissing blood for a week and eating from a straw for a month would solve the problem.
 

ArmyJerry

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I am okay with people burning the flag being a libertarian that I am, but if I actually seen it in person I am pretty sure there would be blood.
 
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pmclaine

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The precious fact that you live in a country where it is your right to burn the flag is the greatest argument against burning the flag.

Its almost a Catch 22 that by doing what you are free to do you expose yourself as against that which provides you your freedom to act.

An enemy of the Constitution and someone that would deny me my freedom as I see it.
 

308pirate

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Just photograph & video them, then find out who they are and add it to the list.
You may find in the future the opportunity arises to legally and non violently make them really regret their actions.
Or you now are starting up your list for passengers on our free ocean watching tour flights....
+1 Intelligence gathering is by far the most productive thing we could do right now.

There HAS to be a right-wing tech saavy group of individuals infiltrating and hacking these people's networks. If there isn't, one needs to be stood up yesterday.
 
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308pirate

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Making lists is not productive (they go out of date quickly), and can be used as evidence of prior intent.

If such a time ever actually comes, the current evidence of one's eyes will be what counts.

Greg
You know not how to wage a counterinsurgency. And there is no expiration date or statute of limitations for the offenses that get people on such lists.

Start up the rotors, string up the ropes.
 
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Greg Langelius *

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I expect people to disagree with me and I welcome the fact. It is proof positive that at least for the present, the Constitution is on a sound foundation. When that's no longer the case, I would not mind getting a copy of your lists because I honestly trust your judgement in such matters.

I'm just not much a fan of such massive duplication of effort. While others make lists, I refine my zeros, work out my trajectories, and keep my skills and iron in tune. It's more of a generalized plan, and may be far less vulnerable to the fog of war.

I have no plans to be an active part of a counterinsurgency. In my current decrepit state, I'd be more of a detriment than an asset, and most likely, would be in the way. What strengths I retain would probably be better employed in a supporting role, and not a starring role.

But in this topic's context, there's a lot of wishful thinking, like there is in all strategic plans. Reality intervenes, and besides, the same vulnerabilities to the participants homes and families on an opposing side as mentioned above also exist regarding our own home front. Somebody needs to stay behind and watch over the home front.

At least I know I can hit what I'm aiming at, and would be doing so in support of all our families at home. In such a role, lists would be little more than a distraction. In such a role, your disagreements would also be flatly irrelevant.

I know the Communists are all very good at using lists. I fully expect that each and every one of us on this site is on many lists already.

I just don't care.

When they come, and I fully expect some will try, I plan to be dug in like a Carolina Tick.

Some of you will continue to disagree with me on this and many other things. That's fine, and yes, I do care. I even think it's a good idea.

Greg
 
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Greg Langelius *

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Not bad, but I'd rather put the first volley a bit high, and see how many are still left. IMHO their bark is not just worse than their bite, it's probably all they're good for.

If I'm wrong, we'd still have time to lower our aim.

Options, people; options... I prefer the option that gets the job done with the least blood spilled.

Greg