**6 Creedmoor**

Feb 15, 2017
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I'm running the new RDF's. They are a great bullet. I have gotten some really tight groups including a 3.5" group at 900 yards this morning. I finally caught a day without 20mph winds. The 8mph crosser this morning was just a sneeze compared to what I've been shooting in all spring. Winds were brutal at the JC Steel match last weekend. Low scores everywhere.

I'm running 41.6grs RE26 at 3115fps. SD is below 3. I'm 1100 rounds in and yesterdays measurement shows .004 off the throat. So the barrel is hanging in there.
How temp stable have you found RE26 to be?
 

lennyo3034

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Apr 18, 2010
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Found good accuracy and SD of 4 with:

47.3 H1000
107 SMK
2.795 (.045" jump)
MV: 2870
SD: 4
ES:10
22" JP barrel (AR-10)

Should I look for a higher node? I am already crunching powder at 47.3, although I have not seen pressure signs.

For reference, this barrel shoots factory Hornady ELD at 2970 with pressure signs.
 
Aug 22, 2017
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Hey guys. Total newb to reloading here. My goal is to load a hot varmint round for my 6 Creedmoor using something like the 65 or 75 gr VMAX. Has anyone done this?

My gun loves the 108 gr ELD factory match rounds and I'm concerned that the 1:8" twist rate won't really like the light bullets.
 
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Hey guys. Total newb to reloading here. My goal is to load a hot varmint round for my 6 Creedmoor using something like the 65 or 75 gr VMAX. Has anyone done this?

My gun loves the 108 gr ELD factory match rounds and I'm concerned that the 1:8" twist rate won't really like the light bullets.
I can't help on a load, but being your gun can run factory 108's, you will have one heck of a jump with a lighter bullet. Then, depending on speed, you're going to need to ensure they do not come apart. Food for thought.
 
Aug 10, 2014
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can i seat bullets using a 6.5 creed seating die?
I asked this question because I had the Hornady 6.5cm match die set and decided to go 6cm. They confirmed what I thought and it was to basically get the 6cm seating stem for the seater and the correct size bushing for the sizer. Depending on your brand of die, you might be able to swap out stems.
 
Aug 12, 2017
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With how difficult it is to find H4350 powder, what other powders are you guys playing with in 6cm?

Thanks
I have scoured the net trying to find some data on Varget... NOTHING! NO data for it anywhere, and I'm too new to reloading to think about trying to wing it on my own!
 

lennyo3034

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I have scoured the net trying to find some data on Varget... NOTHING! NO data for it anywhere, and I'm too new to reloading to think about trying to wing it on my own!
Varget seems too fast for 6CM. Most data I've seen has been for H4350 on the fast side to H1000 on the slow. Varget is considerably faster burning than either of those.

Even if you were to find a good load with Varget, I would think it would burn out the throat rather quickly.

If you're not finding data for it, it might be for good reason.
 
Aug 22, 2017
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So I think I had ok results but I'm not sure where to go from here. This is 87gr VMAX .010" off lands with IMR 4064 at 100 yards. 5 shot groups.

30g - .77"
30.5g - .86"
31g - .62"
31.5g - 1.02"
32g- .82"
32.5g - 1.08"
33g - .66"
33.5g- .74"
34g - .91"
34.5g - 1.07"

Since there is no published data for this load I started in between 6x47L and .243 Win data. I know this gun is capable of more as it will shoot factory Hornady 108 ELDs at around .45"

I didn't experience any pressure signs at all. Should I continue pushing for a hotter node? Or stick with the 33.5g load and experiment with seating depths. With the factory 108s the bullet is seated quite far onto the lands.

 
Aug 12, 2017
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Varget seems too fast for 6CM. Most data I've seen has been for H4350 on the fast side to H1000 on the slow. Varget is considerably faster burning than either of those.

Even if you were to find a good load with Varget, I would think it would burn out the throat rather quickly.

If you're not finding data for it, it might be for good reason.
Good to know.... anyway, I was just able to get 16lbs of H4350, so I should be set for quite a while. Now to get to work loading up some rounds!

 
Nov 19, 2011
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So I think I had ok results but I'm not sure where to go from here. This is 87gr VMAX .010" off lands with IMR 4064 at 100 yards. 5 shot groups.

30g - .77"
30.5g - .86"
31g - .62"
31.5g - 1.02"
32g- .82"
32.5g - 1.08"
33g - .66"
33.5g- .74"
34g - .91"
34.5g - 1.07"

Since there is no published data for this load I started in between 6x47L and .243 Win data. I know this gun is capable of more as it will shoot factory Hornady 108 ELDs at around .45"

I didn't experience any pressure signs at all. Should I continue pushing for a hotter node? Or stick with the 33.5g load and experiment with seating depths. With the factory 108s the bullet is seated quite far onto the lands.

Would this help? https://press.hornady.com/assets/sit...r-all-data.pdf

looks like you can go up to 42’ish of 4064 for the 75 VMax. 4064 might be too fast for the 87 grain.

Heard Hornady is coming out with factory 87 VMax for the 6 creed. If it’s at the same price point as the ELD, it should sell!
 
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Feb 16, 2017
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here are the initial test results from my new build:
24" Proof SS 1-7.5"
108gr ELDM H4350 powder, 100rounds through the tube.
50 degrees, 4500ft, 50% humidity, BP 28.0inhg
Once fired Hornady 6.5 CM necked to 6mm.
5 ROUND GROUPS @100yards WITH MAGNETOSPEED V3 ATTACHED

Factory Hornady 108gr ELDM
AVG- 2976
SD14.3
GROUP SIZE- .82"

41.6gr H4350
AVG- 2976
SD- 14.3
GROUP SIZE- .66"

41.8GR H4350
AVG- 2996
SD- 16.4
GROUP SIZE- ..86"

42.0GR H4350
AVG- 3001
SD-9.1
GROUP SIZE- .70"

42.2GR H4350
AVG-3021
SD-27.2
GROUP SIZE- .72"

42.4GR H4350
AVG- 3026
SD 13.6
GROUP SIZE- .75"

42.6GR H4350- SLIGHT PRESSURE SIGN, STOPPED THERE.
AVG- 3040
SD-14.7
GROUP SIZE- .82"
 
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excess

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Oct 27, 2009
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Just starting to load for 6 Creedmoor.

Alpha large primer brass (new)
40.5 grs Hodgdon H4350
Berger 105 Hybrids
CCI BR-2 primers

24" 7.5 twist barrel

2964 fps averagee
9.5 S-D

I seemed to luck into a very accurate node. I might play a little and see if I can find a good node that's a little faster though.
 

JRodMT

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Feb 21, 2018
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I just ran up a velocity ladder test to see what this rifle was capable of running H4831sc. I’ve got a 28” Bartlein 7.5 twist and here are my results with 110 SMKs and Peterson brass. Slight pressure signs as 45gr.

42gr- 2940fps
42.3gr- 2953fps
42.6gr- 2968fps
42.9gr- 3018fps
43.2gr- 3051fps
43.5gr- 3053fps
43.8gr- 3098fps
44.1gr- 3117fps
44.4gr- 3120fps
44.7gr- 3144fps
45gr- 3172fps
 
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I just ran up a velocity ladder test to see what this rifle was capable of running H4831sc. I’ve got a 28” Bartlein 7.5 twist and here are my results with 110 SMKs and Peterson brass. Slight pressure signs as 45gr.

42gr- 2940fps
42.3gr- 2953fps
42.6gr- 2968fps
42.9gr- 3018fps
43.2gr- 3051fps
43.5gr- 3053fps
43.8gr- 3098fps
44.1gr- 3117fps
44.4gr- 3120fps
44.7gr- 3144fps
45gr- 3172fps

Good seeing you at the shoot on Saturday. Funny we both went from SnoWest to Snipers Hide!
For what it's worth, I have been running RL16 in my 6.5 and 6 Creed with good success. Seems plenty temp stable, and some pretty good velocities with not that much powder. Running the 110 SMKs out of my 6 creed at 3050. Shoots 1/2 or under, which is pretty much the limit of my marksmanship skills anyways...

AB
 
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Sportin Wood

Team Hardwood
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Good seeing you at the shoot on Saturday. Funny we both went from SnoWest to Snipers Hide!
For what it's worth, I have been running RL16 in my 6.5 and 6 Creed with good success. Seems plenty temp stable, and some pretty good velocities with not that much powder. Running the 110 SMKs out of my 6 creed at 3050. Shoots 1/2 or under, which is pretty much the limit of my marksmanship skills anyways...

AB
What load are you using to achieve 3050 with RL16?
 

JRodMT

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Feb 21, 2018
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Good seeing you at the shoot on Saturday. Funny we both went from SnoWest to Snipers Hide!
For what it's worth, I have been running RL16 in my 6.5 and 6 Creed with good success. Seems plenty temp stable, and some pretty good velocities with not that much powder. Running the 110 SMKs out of my 6 creed at 3050. Shoots 1/2 or under, which is pretty much the limit of my marksmanship skills anyways...

AB
Small world isn’t it?! I borrowed my user name from SnoWest. Thanks for coming over and re-introducing yourself. Hope to see you at more matches.
 
Jan 15, 2018
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Finally, Found my Ruger precsion rifles pet load. Hornady once fired brass, 41.7 H4350, Hornady 108 ELD @ 2.790 coal, 3003 fps. I also had good groups with 40.8 grs of H4350 but only 2925 fps. Both are dime size groups @ 100yds
Sierra 107 matcking shoot almost as good with same powder charges
My rifle shoots 105 Berger and Sierra with 40-42 grs of H4350 all near 1 moa
 
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craigos

craigos from Scout 2015
Feb 11, 2017
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So got some of the new Alpha 6CM SRP and found the following in a 26" Bartlein 1:7.5

40.5gr RL17
110 SMK
3050 fps
bolt handle started to get stiff ~ 40.7

41.1gr H4350
115 DTAC
2975 fps
Still had room to push harder but found a node here
 

msowa

Knuckle Dragger
Feb 19, 2012
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RE: 6CM

26" Brux AIAT from Accurate Ordnance, have chamber specs somewhere
107gr MK
42gr H4350
6.5cm hornady brass
.266" neck bushing (pretty sure? been trying a few sizes and don't recall off top of my head)
210m
.030" jump
3130fps 3.7sd
 
Nov 19, 2011
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Well, even though I don’t currently have a 6 Creed in the stable, I couldn’t pass up the pre-order on Prime’s 6 Creed ammo introduction. Since it won’t be out until late this year, I can now start collecting parts for a build...
 
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Anyone notice any difference between small and large primer cases?
Brass life seems to be the biggest benefit. You'll need to redo your load development if you're swapping from LP to SP. I prefer the SP because I can load hotter if needed and know my brass will last longer than 5 firings.
 

Kurusty

New Hide Member
Aug 22, 2018
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Brass life seems to be the biggest benefit. You'll need to redo your load development if you're swapping from LP to SP. I prefer the SP because I can load hotter if needed and know my brass will last longer than 5 firings.
Thank you, I haven't been able to find a real answer.I appreciate your input.
Are you also using 4350 for the SRP?
 
Nov 23, 2010
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Anyone have solid data with alpha brass( please state new or fired) 110 smk and RL16?

Can't get anything better than 7 SD and group variation from 0.450 to 0.850 at 100 yards...

I think their is a node at 2975 ish but I don't know.

I run new brass with bullet at 0.010 from the land(2.858) and at 39.8 I was getting 2967 and now 3000..
 
Mar 10, 2017
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Anyone have solid data with alpha brass( please state new or fired) 110 smk and RL16?

Can't get anything better than 7 SD and group variation from 0.450 to 0.850 at 100 yards...

I think their is a node at 2975 ish but I don't know.

I run new brass with bullet at 0.010 from the land(2.858) and at 39.8 I was getting 2967 and now 3000..
Have you done a seating depth test to fine tune your load for better accuracy?
 

308pirate

Gunny Sergeant
Apr 25, 2017
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Found good accuracy and SD of 4 with:

47.3 H1000
107 SMK
2.795 (.045" jump)
MV: 2870
SD: 4
ES:10
22" JP barrel (AR-10)

Should I look for a higher node? I am already crunching powder at 47.3, although I have not seen pressure signs.

For reference, this barrel shoots factory Hornady ELD at 2970 with pressure signs.
Not abnormal to be compressed at 47.3, max load (per Hodgdon) is 48.2. I'd say add more powder and see.
 

lennyo3034

Gunny Sergeant
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Not abnormal to be compressed at 47.3, max load (per Hodgdon) is 48.2. I'd say add more powder and see.
I have a different 6 CM now and switched the Lapua brass. Load data for Hornady brass definitely does not work, Lapua has much lower case capacity. Here is 47.5 grains H1000 in a Lapua case:

ETA: seems my pictures are not working, but 47.5 is well above overflowing the case.
 
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RadKad

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Aug 30, 2018
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What is the "normal" distance from lands that everyone is running for 105 berger hybrids? I have not done a setting depth test yet, just wanted some advice. Thanks

6mm creedmoor
26 pva 1;7.5 twist
origin action
alpha sp brass
h4350 42.2
cci primers
.020 off lands
 
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