6.5 Creedmoor

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Finally was able to load up some RL16.
Rifle is AIAX-SA 24" 6.5CM
140gr ELD-M
Winchester LRP
1X Fires Hornady Brass (from 2 diff rifles)
FL bushing sized 0.288 neck (but I used carbide expander, so kinda ruins the 0.288 neck tension)
60-70°F
~2800ft Altitude
Don't have DA or Atmospheric Pressure.
A few ejector marks but nothing extreme. Primers a little flattened.

41.5gr
Stats - Average 2746.32
Stats - Highest 2764
Stats - Lowest 2736.66
Stats - Ext. Spread 27.34
Stats - Std. Dev 10.93

42.0gr
Stats - Average 2783.86
Stats - Highest 2814.1
Stats - Lowest 2764.66
Stats - Ext. Spread 49.43
Stats - Std. Dev 20.76

42.5gr
Stats - Average 2822.86
Stats - Highest 2851.51
Stats - Lowest 2803.86
Stats - Ext. Spread 47.64
Stats - Std. Dev 23.87

43.0gr
Stats - Average 2863.02
Stats - Highest 2869.15
Stats - Lowest 2855.79
Stats - Ext. Spread 13.36
Stats - Std. Dev 5.69
 
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Niles Coyote

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42 grains Reloder 16 in brand new Hornady brass with a pass through the Sinclair neck expander mandrel, 147 ELD @ .030" off the lands 2753 fps sd-1/es-1 for three shots over the magnetospeed from a Bartlein 25" 8t. 1k, 9 shots for verification, 6.5" vertical in the rain and 11-12mph wind from 10:30-11:00, gusting 15-16mph.

Pot of gold under a rainbow bridge, LOL.
 

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OK sounds good. I plan to do some coyote and small varmint so I want the speed. I assume I should be safe starting at 42gr? Ill be full length sizing norma brass and trying cci250, winchester LRM, and rem 9 1/2m primers.
 
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Additionally anyone have a load for the Berger 130gr VLD hunting and h4350? Looking at them for a game round and have 300 to mess with.
 

Niles Coyote

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42 would be safe to start. The 130 I have used was the berger ar hybrid but the vld should be nearly the same. My load was 43.1 and a know a few others are using 43.3
 
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RyanO7

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Desert Tech SRS A-1
Desert Tech 26" Lothar Walther

Brass: Lapua SR
Primer: CCI BR4
Bullet: Hornady ELD 147
Powder: Superformance
Charge: 43.8 grains

Stats - Average 2723
Highest 2734
Lowest. 2718
Ext. Spread. 16.4
Std. Dev 6.63
 
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Was able to get out last Friday and test out the BR2 primers.

4X fired Norma (these were all fireformed and headspace measure consistently @ 1.5365, bumped to 1.5360)
CCI-BR2 primers, Alliant RL16

42.0
Stats - Average 2821.02
Stats - Highest 2841.07
Stats - Lowest 2809.89
Stats - Ext. Spread 31.18
Stats - Std. Dev 13.62
5-shots

42.2
Stats - Average 2835.97
Stats - Highest 2849.18
Stats - Lowest 2828.74
Stats - Ext. Spread 20.44
Stats - Std. Dev 7.73
5-shots

42.4
Stats - Average 2855.72
Stats - Highest 2864.88
Stats - Lowest 2846.76
Stats - Ext. Spread 18.11
Stats - Std. Dev 7.96
4-shots (recorded)

42.6
Stats - Average 2856.83
Stats - Highest 2871.09
Stats - Lowest 2845.85
Stats - Ext. Spread 25.23
Stats - Std. Dev 10.47
5-shots

42.8
Stats - Average 2866.12
Stats - Highest 2871.74
Stats - Lowest 2858.55
Stats - Ext. Spread 13.19
Stats - Std. Dev 6.81
3-shots

ES and SD were much more consistent, i'm sure the BR2's helped. With Norma brass and WLRP it was better than Hornady and WLRP, but Norma and BR2 combination seemed most consistent.

Next batch I'll check out 42.2-42.6gr. Hopefully my AMP annealer will ship soon (hopefully in by June). hope it'll help bring my ES/SD down with more consistent neck tension.
 
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Yeah I loaded up some of the Varget/121 Flatlines in Lapua brass and got 3152fps average on a 90* day with a DA somewhere near 4000'. That gets me a bullet that is still supersonic near 2000yds. Too expensive for my blood to shoot all the time, but great for those 1300yd PRS shots.
 

3greatkids

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Alright, I'm new at this so if I need to post this somewhere else, please let me know.

My two boys want to get into PRS style shooting. We have a stock RPR and I'm looking for a load with Hornady 140 ELD-M. I have made many notes after looking through all 18 pages of this thread, so I have some ideas. I'd like to see what other RPR shooters are using with success. I'm not looking for a super hot load, just something proven in an RPR that is accurate and consistant. I have a MagnetoSpeed and all the usual reloading tools. Please advise. Thanks!
 

Niles Coyote

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@3greatkids
41.5 grains of H4350 under a 140 eld-m will replicate Hornady and was the load printed on the factory ammo boxes a few years ago. +/- that a couple tenths and go with what groups best. The next accuracy node tends to be in the 42.5-42.8 range. If you are unable to measure you bullet jump 2.800-2.810 is typical of factory lengths.

RL-16 is another good powder to use and the nodes tend to be nearly the same charge weights as H4350
 
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I have an RPR. It doesn’t have the factory barrel anymore. I’ve been through 2 different lots of H4350 this year and one was substantially slower than the other so the powder charges listed here may vary drastically from what you find. I went from 42.3gr with one lot to 43.2gr with the next lot just to get the same velocity. Basically you’re looking for between 2700-2750fps with the ELd’s. Start .020 off of the lands. Somewhere between 40-42.5gr of H4350 will get you there.
 

drglock

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Trued Remington action
WTO Switchlug
Proof Carbon Fiber 1-8 twist @ 22”
TBAC Ultra 9 30 cal
89+ degrees
DA 1187

Hornady 143gr ELDX
New Alpha Brass LRP
H4350 41.3grs
S&B LRP
BTO 2.190
Coal 2.841
2690fps avg.
high 2700
low 2681
SD 8.1
.22 group


Berger 130gr AR Hybrid
Lapua SRP
Reloader 16 41.6
CCI Small Magnium
BTO 2.202
2769fps
High 2773
Low 2765
SD 4.0
Sub .25 group
 
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Remage criterion 26in heavy barrel
Imr 4451
.20 off lands
Hornady brass
Cci br2
39 grains
140 Hornady match bthp
2612 FPS
Sd 12
Shoots half moa no problem not that speeds I want but don’t really care since it shoots accurately
 
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Remage criterion 26in heavy barrel
Imr 4451
.20 off lands
Hornady brass
Cci br2
39 grains
140 Hornady match bthp
2612 FPS
Sd 12
Shoots half moa no problem not that speeds I want but don’t really care since it shoots accurately
That's pretty slow, esp for a 26" barrel. I would bump your powder up. When I used 4451 for a short time, 42-42.4 was my accuracy node and it was around 2600fps in a factory 20" Tikka barrel. Same brass, same bullet.
 
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I’ve shot all the way up to 43 grains and couldn’t find a good node for it. At this point I’ll take the accuracy over the speed.
I gotcha!

If you ever see it on the shelf, do not hesitate to buy RL16. Faster, accurate, and temp insensitive. I don't even look for H4350 anymore.
 
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I gotcha!

If you ever see it on the shelf, do not hesitate to buy RL16. Faster, accurate, and temp insensitive. I don't even look for H4350 anymore.
I plan to pretty soon to switch to Lapua brass and varget using Berger 130 ar hybrids. I’m hoping for better speeds. I’ve heard that varget is pretty forgiving guess I’ll see how true that is
 

Stpilot12

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I plan to pretty soon to switch to Lapua brass and varget using Berger 130 ar hybrids. I’m hoping for better speeds. I’ve heard that varget is pretty forgiving guess I’ll see how true that is
Give Reloader 16 a try if youre looking for more speed. Im using 42.4gr with 147 ELD and getting 2650 out of a 20" Tikka CTR (Lapua brass)
 

Stpilot12

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Its funny, 42.3 and 42.5 also shot really well. Hardly any change in velocity, SD around 5-7 1/2" groups, then 42.7 went to shit, with some pressure signs. I think we got a good solid node there. Better than what I expected from the tiny little Tikka barrel.
 
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OK, with a Tikka T3x CTR 24" with brake (sorry don't remember the brand) in a KRG Bravo chassis. New Lapua brass trimmed to length with a Giraud, sorted and weighed, Winchester small rifle primer. Redding competition bushing die, 2.80 OAl, .05 jump.

121g Flatline & Varget powder. 7 shot strings, throwing out high & low, averaging the other 5. 6/2/18, 86*, 17% RH, 3647' DA.

42.8g 3166fps 22fps SD
42.9g 3178fps 11fps SD
43.0g 3180fps 10fps SD

No signs of overpressure.

IMO, one of the great things about 6.5 Creedmoor is that you can get some serious range with only 27xxfps. With 45.2g of 4831sc, and 142g SMK's my rounds are still supersonic at 1300yds, which is more than enough for 99% of my shooting. BUT, the flatlines are still SS at 1950yds, so if I have a real long range target I have them for that use. Once I get possession of my suppressor, I'll run the numbers again.
 

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