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308 Winchester

10/07/2014 Last edited 10/21/2014 by Thrust911

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[HR][/HR]Load Data...

Original Thread:

Loads For .308 Winchester
Out of a Factory Remington AAC-SD...Shoots one ragged hole

44gr IMR 4064

Federal GM range pickup brass

GM210M primer

168gr Amax

2.84" COAL

~ 2585FPS SD of 14

43.5 and 44gr of Varget also shot very well.

Couldn't get the heavier bullets to work with this particular rifle...kind of odd that the 1:10 twist really prefers the 168gr.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/07/2014
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out of a factory 700 sps varmint. Both about a .5moa load.

47.2gr varget

lapua brass

federal 210 non match primer

155 lapua scenar

2.830

just under 2950 fps

43.5gr varget

lapua brass

federal 210 non match primer

175gr SMK

2.80

not positive on velocity, but i believe its around 2650.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/08/2014
[HR][/HR]Shot out of a 23" Rock Creek barrel

155 Lapua Scenar

Lapua case

46.1gr of Varget

2.810 OAL

2880 fps

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/09/2014
[HR][/HR]43.5gr IMR 4064

FGM210M primer

Lake City LR brass

175 smk's

2.81 COAL

Out of a 24" Schneider 1/12 twist it gets an average of 2700 with an SD of 7

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/10/2014
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[TR]

[TD="colspan: 5"]178 Hornady AMAX - 44.3 GR Winchester 748 - COAL 2.835" - 24" Bartlein Barrel[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2732[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2714[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2767[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2749[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2778[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2774[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2749[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2693[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2757[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2762[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2759[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2757[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2765[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2758[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2750[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2741[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2741[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2758[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Min[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2693[/TD]

[TD] Max[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2778[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Avg[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2750[/TD]

[TD]S-D[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]20.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]ES [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]85[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/10/2014
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[TD="colspan: 5"]175 Sierra Match King - 44gr IMR 4064 2.815"/20" Bartlein Barrel[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Shot[/TD]

[TD]Speed [/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2658[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[TD]IMR 4064 always gives me the best SD numbers[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2658[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2656[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2656[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2652[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2651[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2650[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2649[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2647[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2646[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2643[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2640[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2637[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Series[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]

[TD] Shots:[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Min[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2637[/TD]

[TD] Max[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2658[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Avg[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2649[/TD]

[TD]S-D[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]6.74[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]ES [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/12/2014
[HR][/HR]168gr SMK

FC brass

Win LR primer

42.8gr IMR 4064

COAL 2.85"

175 Barnes Match Burner

FC brass

Win LR primer

42gr IMR4064

COAL 2.85"

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/13/2014
[HR][/HR]Rifle AI AW

Barrel Factory 1/12 twist, 26" barrel

Chrono Oehler 35p 9 ft from muzzle.

Temp 92.3 F

R.H 28.9

Baro 29.90

Elev 98 feet

Case - Lapua, Cases are full length resized

Primer- GM215M (Federal Magnum Match)

Powder- Varget--44.4 grs

Bullet -Lapua 170 lock Base

Coal - 2.810

2754 fps

This load is just starting to get on the warm side. Primers are just starting to flatten. No sticky bolt lift.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/13/2014 Last edited 10/13/2014 by Surffshr

[HR][/HR]GAP Crusader spec build

175 SMK

44.2 grains Varget

Black Hills brass (ww) FL sized

Fed 210M primers

0.02" off lands

This load worked the same in two GAP Crusader rifles. 3/8" @ 100 yds and held very good accuracy to 1k.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/14/2014
[HR][/HR]I need some data on 208AMAX for a 308. There was a great thread on the old site, can I get someone to re-post some of that data

Thanks!

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/14/2014
[HR][/HR]Tag

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/15/2014 Last edited 10/15/2014 by spawnof918v

[HR][/HR]TRG22 26"

175SMK

41.1grs of IMR4064

210M

LCLR Brass

2.800"

2570FPS SD9 1.329ms barrel time

.5 MOA due to my ineptness

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/15/2014
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**L1A1SLR wrote:** Rifle AI AW

Barrel Factory 1/12 twist, 26" barrel

Chrono Oehler 35p 9 ft from muzzle.

Temp 92.3 F

R.H 28.9

Baro 29.90

Elev 98 feet

Case - Lapua, Cases are full length resized

Primer- GM215M (Federal Magnum Match)

Powder- Varget--44.4 grs

Bullet -Lapua 170 lock Base

Coal - 2.810

2754 fps

This load is just starting to get on the warm side. Primers are just starting to flatten. No sticky bolt lift.

are those the d46 170 that are discontinued ? and why are you using mag primers?

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/16/2014
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**Rustybroadhead wrote:** I need some data on 208AMAX for a 308. There was a great thread on the old site, can I get someone to re-post some of that data

Thanks!

Here you go buddy, this will take you to the first post by MontanaMarine.

Just scroll through the threads. Hope this helps.

http://forum.snipershide.info/showthread.php?t=24338
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Re: 308 Winchester

10/16/2014
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**sakobob wrote:** **L1A1SLR wrote:** Rifle AI AW

Barrel Factory 1/12 twist, 26" barrel

Chrono Oehler 35p 9 ft from muzzle.

Temp 92.3 F

R.H 28.9

Baro 29.90

Elev 98 feet

Case - Lapua, Cases are full length resized

Primer- GM215M (Federal Magnum Match)

Powder- Varget--44.4 grs

Bullet -Lapua 170 lock Base

Coal - 2.810

2754 fps

This load is just starting to get on the warm side. Primers are just starting to flatten. No sticky bolt lift.

are those the d46 170 that are discontinued ? and why are you using mag primers?

sakobob,

They are the B476

http://www.lapua.com/en/products/reloading/bullets
I used the mag primers cause that's all I had at the time when I was doing load development.

All the store were dry, couldn't find any standard large rifle primers at the time. I've been using mag primers ever since.

I had to up .4 of a grain with this new lot number. See below.

Must add, that powder was weighed on a Lyman DPS II

I'm going back to beam scales to try and lower the ES and SD.

[TABLE="border: 0"]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2208[/TD]

[TD]44.8 grns[/TD]

[TD]Lot No MEM4979[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Series[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD] Shots:[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Min[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2748[/TD]

[TD] Max[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2783[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Avg[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2765[/TD]

[TD]S-D[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]ES [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]35[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]29 c[/TD]

[TD]1004 hPa[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Series[/TD]

[TD]Shot[/TD]

[TD]Speed [/TD]

[TD]DA 696[/TD]

[TD]H 60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2748[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2757[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2751[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2783[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2759[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2762[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2777[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2760[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2777[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2782[/TD]

[TD] ft/sec [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]----[/TD]

[TD]----[/TD]

[TD]----[/TD]

[TD]----[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/16/2014
[HR][/HR]L1a1slr, thanks for the link.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/17/2014 Last edited 10/17/2014 by excessfreebore

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**JSTARSZ wrote:** [TABLE="border: 0"]

[TR]

[TD="colspan: 5"]178 Hornady AMAX - 44.3 GR Winchester 748 - COAL 2.835" - 24" Bartlein Barrel[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2732[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2714[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2767[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2749[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2778[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2774[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2749[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2693[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2757[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2762[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2759[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2757[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2765[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2758[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2750[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2741[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2741[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2758[/TD]

[TD] ft/s [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Min[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2693[/TD]

[TD] Max[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2778[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Avg[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]2750[/TD]

[TD]S-D[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]20.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]ES [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]85[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

JSTARZ those are moving out! Nice velocities, I've never worked with 748 but this is impressive. Any signs of pressure? thanks for posting.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/18/2014
[HR][/HR]Custom .308 with Stiller Tac 30 , 28" HV 1:11.25 Bartlein, Jewell hvr , AICS

42.0 IMR 4064, 178 amax, Lapua brass, Fgm210m, at 2.230 to ogive. 2725 fps.

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Also, 185 juggernaut

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Other juggernaut load is 47.0 PP2000mr. At 2.850 Coal. ( can't remember ogive ). Same brass and primer.

2830 fps average. 28.5 moa at 1,000 yards with 100 yard zero

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/18/2014
[HR][/HR]Forgot to add this pic. The flyer was my fault. But the next three were good to go. I simply adjusted horizontal to keep same poa w/o tearing up sticker. (3/4" circle) This is same load as the 42.0 IMR 4064 with 178 amax at 2.230 to ogive.

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Re: 308 Winchester

10/18/2014
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Must add, that powder was weighed on a Lyman DPS II

I'm going back to beam scales to try and lower the ES and SD.

I use a Chargemaster for dispensing my powders. I found that closer attention to case prep (neck turning for uniform thickness), Neck sizing with minimal shoulder bump, gives more band from the buck than just weighing with a different scale.

I've also found that sorting newly purchased brass after it's first firing by "straightness" and neck thickness uniformity yields good results. Cases that stay straight after that first firing are more likely to be of uniform thickness throughout the case itself.

OK, it may take me two or three boxes of brass in order to end up with ONE box after sorting but when I do this I sure do get some nice uniform loads with low SD/ES. The rounds even group well at 300 + yards.

My favorite load for my .308 with Benchmark 5-C bbl is 44.1 gr Varget, 175 SMK, Fed or Wolf Primer (I can't tell the difference over the chrono.) with an OAL of 2.825" Need to use a drop tube or be comfortable with the "Varget Crunch".