224 Valkyrie at Team Safari

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I shot the JP 224V at the Team Safari this past weekend and the results were outstanding

for me personally, I hit every target Friday, dropped 2 Saturday and 3 on Sunday.
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Most of the misses were either due to not seeing the target, or having weird results from the vegetation so the corrections were off. They put targets in or in front of the brush often and trying to "see" the miss could be skewed so in the interest of time I begged off the shot.

The nice part, we had a team in front of us with a 223 and a team behind us with a 224V and seeing the difference is night and day.

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The 223 would take 3 to 5 shots to hit a target at distance, the 224V, 1 to 3 shots for the same targets. And to be fair the team in front with 223 did finish higher than my team, but remember the bolt gunner gets twice as many targets.

Seeing the real-world results and spending time this weekend talking to a guy from Federal, it sucks they had a misfire early on because the round is awesome. He had a bunch of animals kills with the 224V, small antelope or Deer and he said the round punches up on animals. The round can seriously kill shit in the 250LBS and less category, though he suggests it could do well on the bigger stuff.

In this event, the gas gun shooter can fire unlimited rounds to get 3 hits, but they have to be conscious of the time. The bolt gunner has to engage 6 targets after the carbine shooter fires under the same 6 minute time limit. In that terrain above, you have to find and engage 6 targets, 3 by the carbine, all by the bolt gun, who can only shoot 1 round per target.

The targets are AA Targets Rebar Stands with hanging diamonds circles or rectangles hanging on black straps. The targets are not painted and can easily blend into the terrain. In most 1x 6 stages, 4 targets are pretty easy to find, 2 are usually hidden in the bushes. You basically look for the straps because nothing else sticks out.
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This is on my range and painted, but picture this unpainted and rusty,

So, find it, range it, engage it, on the clock for two.

The JP was a laser, and the 224V performs
 

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Looks/sounds like a great time. Would love to see some video of the action.
 

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@lowlight thanks for the write-up!

What optic(s) tend to work best for an event like this? Lower power binos like 10x50 for the increased FOV in order to find targets? Or do you both run integrated LRF-binos?
 
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LRF Binos,

I used the Zeiss RF 45s and Adam used the Leica pictured above

Ranging at the same time you find it is key, you honestly can have a ton of time, but most of the stages, you finish on the buzzer.

The guys that shoot this often do really well because they can recognize the terrain and target patterns, this being my first event, it takes about 3 stages to recognize it at first then it becomes pretty standard, but the hidden targets are still super tricky.

Binos are perfect for this
 

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Heck yeah!!....Anyone trip while running through the course? Looked like Andy lost his footing a bit in the early part of the video. Looks like pretty rugged terrain.
 

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What tripod is that with the binos on it? Wouldn't be the colorado tripod tester you've been messing with, would it?
 

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Crux

A lot of guys are running Crux Tripods, they are bigger and heavier than RRS, but the Army is using them too

No, the CO Tripod is still in the prototyping phase, not quite ready to test

Andy ran it fast, they were under 45 seconds I think, most were around 100 seconds, we did it in 118 sec. which was average, a few teams were sub 60 seconds and it's sandy out there, very fine powder sand.
 

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Was anyone running Raptors or other gun mounted rangefinders with integrated ballistic data?
 

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I don't think so, that would actually be slower to run a gun mounted system because of the movement required.

You often cannot see them prone, not all of them anyway, and you are moving, so you want to scan quickly with a bino and it's easier to range at the same time.

You don't see others but two teams the one in front and behind you, but I did not notice any.

It's actually better because there are no peacocks, you are not putting on a show, you are working to get it done. You arrive and step off at different times in the morning from like 7AM to 9AM so they are staggering teams.

Finding them in the scope would be a lot harder.

Farthest target I shot as the carbine guy was like 610 yards, the targets are from 90 yards to 750 give or take a few yards. They vary in size and also have angles involved, Most are hidden. The long bombs change from year to year. this time it was a touch shorter. They can put them out pretty far, but usually give you pockets of targets, the average range was about 450.
 

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You've had that Valkyrie for awhile now. What's your current opinion on the cartridge? Not so much the rifle, it's a JP I know it's great. With so many different AR cartridges that ebb and flow in popularity it's hard to tell which ones are gonna have "staying power".
 

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just listen to the pod cast this morning, sound it was a hoot!
wish it was closer, wish there was one in the S.E
 

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I don't think so, that would actually be slower to run a gun mounted system because of the movement required.

You often cannot see them prone, not all of them anyway, and you are moving, so you want to scan quickly with a bino and it's easier to range at the same time.

You don't see others but two teams the one in front and behind you, but I did not notice any.

It's actually better because there are no peacocks, you are not putting on a show, you are working to get it done. You arrive and step off at different times in the morning from like 7AM to 9AM so they are staggering teams.

Finding them in the scope would be a lot harder.

Farthest target I shot as the carbine guy was like 610 yards, the targets are from 90 yards to 750 give or take a few yards. They vary in size and also have angles involved, Most are hidden. The long bombs change from year to year. this time it was a touch shorter. They can put them out pretty far, but usually give you pockets of targets, the average range was about 450.
So you were using .224 as the carbine shooter, was your bolt gun shooter also running .224V?
 

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I'm just starting to experiment with the Valkyrie, what bullet and weaight are you using?
 

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I'm just starting to experiment with the Valkyrie, what bullet and weaight are you using?
Lots and lots of Valkyrie information on here with just a simple search. From what I heard on the everyday sniper podcast Frank was shooting the factory Hornady 88 gr eldm ammo.