.223 - 5.56

padom

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I have been having pretty damn good results with 25.5gr of 8208 using the 52gr Berger FB Target bullets. What charge weight are you suggesting for 77gr pills (TMK or SMK) ?
Pretty well known node for 75/77gr pills between 23.2 - 23.8. Most people find their node at 23.6. Load charges from 23.2g in 0.2g increments up to 24.
 
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Anyone loading the 62gr hornaday cannure hpbt with h335 and if so what kind of results you getting ?
I'm loading them at
23.9 of H335
coal of 2.235
2680 fps
lc brass and cheap norinco brass
1x7 twist
AR-15 Ballistic advantage 16 premium barrel
I might step up to a 77 hpbt sierra match king later but got alot of these right now and looking for some options.
 
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
10/20/2014
[HR][/HR]Lake city brass full length sized and trimmed to 1.75
26 grains of N133
50 grain vmax
wolf small rifle primer

(this load may be to hot for a semi auto)
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
10/24/2014 Last edited 12/17/2016 by GregLangelius
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By Greg Langelius

.223/5.56 Varmint/Target loads for 200yd and under

50 NBT or 52SMK, 2.260" OAL
F/L resized brass, I prefer PPU.
CCI BR-4
26.0gr Varget.

.223/5.56 Target load for beyond 200yd

HDY 75gr HPBT Match, 2.260" OAL
F/L resized brass, I prefer PPU
CCI BR-4
23.7gr Varget
The above loads work well as a generic loads in 4 rifles, CMMG 16 Bull WASP, Mossberg 20" MVP Predator, 24" Savage 11VT, 24" Stag Model 6 Super Varminter. The slowest rifling is the CMMG 16"/1:9".

Mixmaster Load to duplicate performance of FGMM 3006/168

SRA 168SMK, 3.230" OAL
F/L resized brass, I prefer Win.
CCI BR-2
48.1gr IMR-4064

Thus load works well in my M70 Push Feed Sporter (under 2" at 250yd), 22" Savage Axis II XP, and should be fine in my Garand.

My generic deer hunting load substitutes the SRA 165SGKwith no other changes. ETA: as of yesterday's test, the165SGK load shoots ay least as accurately at 200yd in my M70 sporter as the 168SMK load.

It is not my policy to load beyond mag length and my brass is F/L resized to match a standard case gauge, and not any specific chamber.

Greg



Update: the 165gr version of the '06 load placed first in local club (Bath, NY) deer rifle match.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
11/05/2014
[HR][/HR]Seekings SPRO3G Upper (18", 1/8 barrel)

LC brass
CCI 400
Hornady 75gr BTHP
COL=2.225"
24.0gr PP 2000-MR

Have gone all the way up to 26.4gr, but 24.0gr provides better accuracy

Bolt gun w/ 20" 1/7 Brux barrel

LC Brass
CCI 400
Seated ~ 0.005" off lands (not sure this matters much)
Hornady 75gr AMAX
25.5gr PP 2000-MR

LC Brass
CCI 400
Seated ~ 0.005" off lands (not sure this matters much)
Hornady 80gr AMAX
25.3gr PP 2000-MR
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
11/05/2014
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LC '12 Brass

Fed 205M Primers

24.9g Varget

69g SMK

2.250" COAL

18" Black Hole Weaponry barrel with 1:8 Twist

Sub 1/2 moa if I play the role of a shooter.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
11/17/2014 Last edited 07/04/2015 by Stpilot12
[HR][/HR]Time to contribute….

Hornady 68gr BT match
25.5 Varget
F205M
Win 1x
2.252 COAL- This bullet is more finicky than SMK's, tried 2.248-2.260 .252 was noticeably better.
Mild load, 2855 Avg from my Tikka Varmint 24"
.5" @100, taken it to 500, easy MOA or better


Hornady 53gr VMAX
26.0 Benchmark
CCI BR-4
Win 1x and LC 1x
2.270 COAL
3350fps Avg from my Tikka 24" (3380 in Virgin Win brass)
My goto Varmint load.. Makes Squirrel soup
Ive seen this as small as .3's, if it goes over .5, its my fault...


69 SMK
25.7 Varget
F205M or BR-4 (doesn't seem to care)
Win 1x
2.258 COAL
Avg 2875fps in my WOA 18" SPR
Always .5" Taken it to 600, easy MOA+


Preliminary Work up…
69 SMK
23.8 Benchmark (this is over max.)
CCI BR-4
Win 1x
2.258COAL
I've only shot 3 Groups (of 5) so far, but looks promising. All three groups under .5"
Velocity is a little slow at 2780 fps (Avg.18" SPR) with ES less than 20 (I love Benchmark)
No real pressure signs yet. I may push it up a bit, but the accuracy is incredible so far.
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
12/05/2014
[HR][/HR]A good load for under 500 is 40grvmax on top of 24gr N120 and Rem 7 1/2. This is a max or near max load but it does a number on Prairie dogs.
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
12/14/2014
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Factory Remington 700 SPS Tactical 1:9 20"

Brass: Lake City

Primer: CCI 400

Powder: Varget 25 grains

Bullet: Hornady 75 HPBT

Bullet just touching the lands.

Velocity: 2814

ES: 9



Shoots .4s in my rifle.



24.7 shot even tighter with .3s, but the ES and SD were not as consistent. I will be testing 24.7 more.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
02/14/2015
[HR][/HR]Recorded this past summer.
18" noveske with 8208, 77cc @2.257" Winchester cases and primers.
23 grains = 2637 for 5 with SD of 18
23.5 grains = 2682 for 5 with SD of 6
23.8 grains = 2700 for 6 with SD of 15

16" sabre defense 75 bthp Hornady 8208 in FC brass and WSR
23 grains 2600 for 4 SD of 10
23.8 grains 2700 for 5 SD of 30

Recorded Feb14th at 14 degrees with one hour of transport from 70 degree house
18" FN chrome lined barrel, rifle gas, with 8208, 77cc @2.257" Wolf Gold cases and Winchester primers.
23 grains = 2621 for 4 with SD of 12
23.5 grains = 2670 for 4 with SD of 11
23.8 grains = 2692 for 4 with SD of 24

Recorded this past summer.
69 grain Nosler CC @ 2.253 with H4895 @ 24.4 = best load that works well in all my AR uppers and Remington Tactical 20" factory barrel

16" Sabre Defense, mid gas = 2768
18" Noveske,= 2829
18" FN = 2851
20" Rem Tac = 2854
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
02/15/2015
[HR][/HR]Hornady tap copy

55 gr hornady v-max flat base bullet
24.7 gr of benchmark
Very tight groups in all my AR's
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
03/01/2015 Last edited 06/19/2015 by colt933
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Mk262 Mod1 ish clone

LC Brass, headspace 1.460 (like FGMM in the box), trimmed to 1.750"

77SMK W/C

Ramshot TAC 24.8

FGMM primer

2.245"

LFCD



This load is 1/2MOA in three different DD CHF S2W 18" AR15 barrels.





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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
03/07/2015
[HR][/HR]POF 16" barrel 1/8 twist.
LC brass
Wolf small rifle magnum primers
27.0 gr. Varget
62 gr. SS109 bullet.
2950 fps avg. for 10 shot string.
I only shot this @ 50 yd. , I was looking more for velocity than accuracy.
3/4 " @ 50 yd using a vortex pst 1-4
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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
03/17/2015
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not to rain on anyones parade... I was looking over some of the loads copied over from the old site that are here and I see a problem.

this is listed as mine



By Rover31
Lapua Brass
Rem 7 1/2 Primers
80 SMK (.015" off lands)
24.6 gr V140
2750fps

I don't have Lapua brass (never have owned any)

I don't have any Rem primers

I have never used or had any V140 powder



I'm a bit concerned that some of the data is messed up. I don't want to see anyone using the data with bad or even just poor results. I especially don't want my name tied to something that is wrong.

I suggest that others look through this and see if I am the only one with bad data.



Thanks

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
03/26/2015
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Savage bolt, 26in McGowen bull barrel threaded with suppressor

Win brass

CCI SR primer

80g SMK

Varget 25.4g

COAL have to check

Avg Velocity at 1k altitude on a 60f day

2907.1



load #2

everything same as above except

Power Pro 2000mr 25.3g velocity avg. 2699.8

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
05/18/2015
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Starting to load for my .223/.556. Trying to find a powder to start with. Gonna measure the twist tonight(Windham). Stock gun. Thinking of 55-62 grain bullets. Sounds like Benchmark, H4895, and Varget? I'll dig more, just looking for good opinions.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
05/19/2015
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1:8 twist.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
05/19/2015
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Sounds like I may be loading 69 SMK's or 77 SMK's, using Varget or H4895.

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Re: .223 - 5.56 Loads
05/19/2015
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Correction. 1:9 twist. Looking like 55-62 grain bullets.

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Where did you get that target at?
 

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Hey Padom,
I am liking the 8208 XBR. What is best way to get that much powder in the 223 case? This powder along with Varget, AR Comp is hard to get it into case at a max load. I use a Forster Micro Seater and have to reseat many that don't seat deep enough. It is a pain. Thanks.
 
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Just worked up a predator hunting load for the Noveske 14.5 inch trying to be fur friendly on foxes and coyotes.
28.2 gr TAC (Ramshot max is 28 gr in their 223 data)
40 gr Nosler ballistic tip
lc case
rem 7.5 primer

3190 fps and seems to shoot tighter than I can hold with a 1-8 optic.
I always forget how loud this rifle is...
 
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Rifle is a trued Remington 700 with a 24 inch Kreiger barrel chambered by Andy at the Firm.

70
Lapua Brass
Federal 205M Primer
Berger 70 VLD
Varget 24 grains
Seated .020 of Lands
Velocity 2912
SD 8


77
Lapua Brass
Federal 205M Primer
Berger 77 OTM Tactical
Varget 24 grains
Coal 2.260
Velocity 2738
SD 15
 
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