1000 yrd Walmart air rifle

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So I bought my 27th cheap air rifle because my last one missed a gopher at -2 yards so I used it to try to beat the gopher to death before he got to me. It is some sort of gee whiz wonderful .22 air gun that is supposed to cook along at 1200 fps. So my plan is for repeatable 1000 yard shots with this thing.

First testing is going good. During zero hour after the 4th shot the scope reticle evaporated due to the over-photosynthesis of the tree I was shooting at.Now to mount a non-evaporating scope...

New scope mounted and several birds have chosen death over life.

Now to really stretch out the rifle's legs...

100 yard shots are within i foot moa...

So I should be able to hit a 12 foot diameter target at 1000 yards.

Now I need to find a strong enough backdrop...
 

steve123

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Ha, that .028 BC tends to drop and drift quite a bit. Point it at a 45 degree angle and you might get 300 yards.

The manufacturers take the lightest pellet they can find and still trump up the velocity numbers.

Cheap air rifle, that's most people's first mistake. Most sub $200 AG's are junk. Spend about $500 on a Benjamin Marauder PCP air rifle and you've come into a different realm. 1" groups at 50Y are very doable with good match grade heavy pellets. 100Y shots on a 3" steel in light winds aren't that hard. Recently a friend was hitting a 5" steel at 191Y regularly with his 25 cal FX Royale 500 PCP.

Take it a step further. There is a video on youtube of a guy shooting pop cans at 400Y with his Airforce Condor converted to a custom 257 shooting cast bullets about 1050 fps.

Last weekend I saw $4000 air rifles with $1000 scopes on them. http://www.thomasrifles.com/br-rifle.html

In the rimfire forum I posted a link to our state FT match. It has pictures of many PCP air rifles.
 
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I am peeing my pants. I started this to see how many people would even view it. As if 1000 is possible with a Walmart airgun...
 

Strykervet

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Well, I was like, "WFT?" I don't go to stores much at all, don't even know what new shit they sell.

I did have an air rifle as a kid, think my dad got it on sale for $30? It was a Chinese break action --you "pump" the cylinder with the barrel. Anyway, it'd drive a .177 to 1000fps and completely decapitate small birds. Was fairly accurate too --was my best air rifle. Carried it on hunts, preferred it to a Marlin 60 .22. I killed more shit with that rifle than any other implement on Earth. Wonder where it is right now?
 
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Rerun7

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Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are going to have a hard time getting to 1000yd with that setup. It’s gonna go subsonic at around 800 unless you use the new flatline pellets.

Even then the spin spin drift is brutal for pellets. And by the time you factor in the coriolis effect you’ve got about a 1500moa shift in a 3mph wind.

I mean, I’ve done it but I’m pretty skilled, so.... good luck.
 
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The hot ticket is a Red Ryder & 150 pieces of PVC pipe and a down hill target. The BB's roll a lot better than the pellets in the pipe. with proper form, fundamentals & close target placement you'll be grouping about the size of the ID of the chosen pipe.
 

sirhrmechanic

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You ate a lot of paint chips as a child, didn't you?

Ok... I'll accept this as awesome parody. Because there are probably gun-island salespeople at Wally World... selling air guns this way.

But if I am wrong and this is not parody... can I suggest that snorting lines of asbestos brake-dust is really a rush.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 

Frankly

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Handmade in Tennessee RAW 1000 PCP gets 200 full power shots, 850 fps 7.5 gr .177 pellet (tuned down, not up, for accuracy). Cloverleafs at 50 yards all day long for the cost of a single round of PRS ammo. And you can shoot it in your yard without the cops visiting, very quiet and stealth.

So good it gets boring, which is why I no longer have it (and with a CF fill tank it's a $3k investment). But I kept a a 10m air pistol and a couple tuned Weihrauch springers for plinking and pests, they're fun too. But you have to start with a decent quality gun and tune it just like your "real" rifles.... Can't expect a Walmart gun to be in the same league.
 

steve123

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It's sad this is our only airgun thread, lol.

1000Y no, but I was hitting our 136 yard, 3" steel, most of the time with my MAC1 USFT PCP FT rifle last Wednesday/low wind. That's ELR for a 19ftlb 17 cal with .030 BC at 935 fps. I was happy!

Now consider a 22rf has a .145 BC and going 1050 fps at standard velocity.
 

Strykervet

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The hot ticket is a Red Ryder & 150 pieces of PVC pipe and a down hill target. The BB's roll a lot better than the pellets in the pipe. with proper form, fundamentals & close target placement you'll be grouping about the size of the ID of the chosen pipe.
Targets have to be made of tissue paper, don't forget the tissue paper. The method works and is what most ELR airgun enthusiasts use, but they're careful during pipe assembly so the bb doesn't encounter turbulence due to uneven pipe connections.

Good luck, and send us pictures of your setup!
 

Strykervet

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That's a slick rifle above.

I swear though, my cheapo Chinese break action (may $30-40?) in the mid 80's was the best air rifle I ever had. It was fairly accurate, a helluva lot more accurate than any of the more expensive Daisy rifles my friends had. I mean, I could hunt with it, and you could hit really small targets at fair distance for an airgun. It was no tackdriver by any means, but for the cost?

We used some break action air rifle, I forget the mfg., it wasn't really nice but not Chinese either, in SDM school for the students to use before and after class or whenever they wanted to practice fundamentals and positions without needing a range or ammo. They'd group pretty well at the range we used 'em at (25y maybe? Maybe a little less?).

$3000 for an air rifle... $700 including stamp and you can be shooting a suppressed .22! Air rifles are a lot of fun and cheaper, it'd just take one helluva lot of shooting to break even on that one though!
 

D_TROS

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That's a slick rifle above.

...it'd just take one helluva lot of shooting to break even on that one though!
If we were worried about breaking even we would have gotten out of the shooting sport a long time ago! ha.


My baby is an Anschutz 8002 S2 Black Air Hunter that was taken out of the stock and bedded into a Kelblys KTS Stock (same stock as my match rifle) so I can practice in my basement. I have 10 yards in my basement and it is a ton of fun. If only I could get motivated to shoot more often. Ha. The single feeding does get super annoying tho.


DT
 

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Saw air rifle and had to check it out. Had one of those Chinese break barrels when I was a kid, killed a truck load of pigeons at my grandpa's dairy.

First step into pcp was a marauder .25. Moved on to a wicked air rifles warp in .177. Love all the extra shots but still like to hear the 25 thump birds. Busted 70 starlings in an hour and half when the snow was on at the local farmers. Only thing in indiana you can shoot that much at other than steel! IMG_2823.JPG
 
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