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    Exclamation Tactical Rifles Lawsuit Defense Fund -- Support our Efforts

    We are going to fight the lawsuit filed by TacticalRifles.net out in Federal Court of Florida.

    This Federal case was filed against Me, Sniper's Hide & Marc Soulie, at present I have spoken to several lawyers on the matter and feel rather than try to settle it, we are gonna fight it and protect our ability to post the truth in any matter. We feel fighting this and winning will send a message to companies that were are here for a reason and do in fact provide a service to the members, not only what we can say, but how and where our money will be spent.

    This fight is about you the end user, and the ability to talk about problems with a company's product or service. Without defending this suit, a win tells all of you, if you voice a negative opinion or review of a product or service, you can and will be sued for Libel / Slander / Assault. They feel the negative reviews are an assault on their company and not a problem to be addressed and fixed.

    Help us defend our freedoms by supporting the site in this effort. Our initial retainer will be $7500... that is just the first step. Marc will more than likely have to defend his efforts to correct the problems found with his clients rifle. I encourage you to support Marc Soulie as well.

    Current Goals are Reached ! Thanks

    Please support Marc Soulie

    Everything Helps, this is a Federal Case.

    Thanks to Everyone for supporting the site

    Snipershide.com reached the initial amount required for the retainer and has stopped taking donations at this time, if more is needed we will let you know.

    Please continue to support Marc Soulie using the info below:
    marcsoulie@yahoo.com can be used for Paypal. If you'd prefer to use check or M.O. send to Marc Soulie, P.O. Box 185, Saratoga, CA, 95070.
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    Just sent $100.

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    I have send a small contribution, keep us posted on your fund amount , if you need more

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    Just contributed. I have a Spartan Precision Rifle in my possession and another one at Marc's shop. Please keep us posted if Marc decides he needs our support as well. I just got done texting him and he seems fine for now.

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    Just sent $100 and wish I could do more. Timing is a bit tough with the wifes health just now so over the next few months I will send more as funds allow. As I understand it this is important and my old scope actually works ok anyway.
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    Kicked in a little to support the fight.

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    Done. Guess who is never buying something from someone?
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    In for $20.

    Tell them to eat shit and die for me, will ya ?
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    Donation made.

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    Is there a link to the problem post.
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    I'm in. Take the fight to the tool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0481 View Post
    Is there a link to the problem post.
    Here is one of many "slandering" TacticalRifles.net. I see it as pointing out their fuck ups. Pretty much exposing them as a fraud in the firearms community. I don't know how OP in this thread contained himself as well as he did. I would lose my mind, and I'm local to them. So that would be bad.

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    Will support $100 when the funds reach my paypal. This lawsuit sounds like the 1st amendment was stepped on.

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    I'll toss some in the pot tomorrow when the paycheck hits, posted a thread link to Facebook and Twitter as well. I'd love to see the membership come together and help fund this. Make sure your lawyer asks that the judge make the opposition pay your attorneys fees when you win Frank.
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    Getting attorney fees are not guaranteed, Marc has a better chance of that than I do simply because of prior case law.

    If I get it dismissed my fees are lost, so that money will not be returned even if it is dismissed.
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    Small contribution sent.

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    Give 'em hell Frank, I have a feeling this won't end well for TR at all. I'd be pretty easy for the community to lean on their suppliers and pressure them into pulling any and all component support for TR. Just sayin'.

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    I really appreciate all the support, from both individuals here and the industry, my phones have been ringing and I appreciate it.
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    Absolutely despicable behavior from TacticalRifles.net. The pictures of their work that I have seen here and on other websites is deserving of the very unhappy customers. Rather than take an opportunity to correct their mistakes and improve their QC, they decide to throw a tantrum and start a legal battle? They just sealed their fate. This doesn't just affect this forum, but all forums! If we cannot freely offer our opinions regarding people's products or services, then the usefulness of all forums will be diminished greatly, and customers will suffer as a result.

    Everyone should print a flyer that says to avoid them, and hang them in every gun shop and shooting range in the country.

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    So, I have a question...And if you can't answer it, I implore you not to...Clearly nothing here was patented and our bipods aren't hopping...*cough cough*...

    In reading the facebook:

    Nature of Suit: Assault, Libel, and Slander
    Cause of Action: 28:1332
    Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
    Then re-reading the original posts...Is Snipershide being named as a party to the apparent [libel, "assault" and slander] or, is SH simply being involved because it's the medium by which the apparent [slander] occurred?

    Am donating, regardless --Just curious.
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    Sending $ when I get back from Asia trip. Unbelievable how these companies choose kamikaze tactics over just fixing their issues.
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    I have not read the entire complaint as I don't have access to that ... apparently the assault in this case is not of the traditional sense as nobody was near any of them.

    my guess we are the medium and they want all the negative posts about them removed.

    Since we have not been contacted in the matter, ... your guess is as good as any until the complaint is detailed to me.
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    They can't regulate what consumers say about them. If they do terrible work, they get a terrible reputation. If you do good work, you get a good reputation. This community is vocal. They should've known better than to try this. I believe in our community, and I KNOW we will come together to fight back on this. They put the nail in their own business' coffin. Unbelievably stupid move. I will be donating.
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    Just sent you $100 from my personal account. Sent you an e-mail for business support.

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    Lol, guess TR hasn't heard of the first amendment.

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    Just a thought? Stiller, Manners, and McMillan supply TR and all 3 of those companies are big contributors to the hide. If they knew and cared about what shit product TR is producing with their name on it, maybe they would be willing to cut that supply line off. If I were in that position I would take the high road and tell Rooney to get bent.
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    Sent $25.
    I wish I could have sent more. Good luck..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precisionshooter View Post
    Lol, guess TR hasn't heard of the first amendment.
    I bet they all voted for Obama, as neither of them care about, nor know anything about the constitution.

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    Sent $25.
    I wish I could have sent more. Good luck..
    If 25% of all registered members sent $25, Lowlight would have enough funds to see this lawsuit to the very end. Lots of small donations add up really quickly, ask me how I know.

    My opinion and guess is that TR will drop the case when faced with any opposition on this matter. I think they just thought that Lowlight was be a little bitch and back down. They obviously haven't met Frank, as i'm pretty sure they wouldn't have survived the encounter. Frank may barely break the 5' mark but he's kinda like a honey badger, just without hair.

    Need to spread this far and wide, post on other forums about what's going on, not just to break the back of TR, but what this case would mean to our ability to inform others of a company that is taking money for work that just isn't up to par.

    I wouldn't be where I am as a painter in this industry if my work was shit. I work hard to make sure every single customer is 100% happy. If I need to repaint it 2 or 3 times to make them happy, so be it. Customer service and quality goes a lot further now than pricing.

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    I've got $20 on it for now. Will help when I can. Don't want to see this kind of thing be commonplace, their bad work is damage enough to our community.

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    Money sent! Keep us updated on the case when you can. I hope Rooney and his clowns over there learn a lesson they will never forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowlight View Post
    I have not read the entire complaint as I don't have access to that ... apparently the assault in this case is not of the traditional sense as nobody was near any of them.

    my guess we are the medium and they want all the negative posts about them removed.

    Since we have not been contacted in the matter, ... your guess is as good as any until the complaint is detailed to me.
    Your fight is our fight, Frank. This site has done more the tactical LR shooting community than any other entity that I know of. I just did the bank transfer to Paypal, and as soon as it hits my account next week, you'll have $100 more to your defense fund. Go kick some ass!
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    LL,
    I applaud you for the stance you're taking.

    I mean, come on, just look at how many websites have product reviews as a component of their sites. Does the future of this mean that every site that has a product review component is going to have to worry about a lawsuit every time a vendor, manufacturer etc. sees a "bad" review on their product? HOGWASH!

    I think this lawsuit could possibly (more likely definitely) has ramifications that go way beyond this site of yours, as another above stated, 1st Amendment issues.

    Good luck to you sir, and donation sent for the cause.

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    Unfortunately, this isn't the first time I've seen this happen in the industry and sadly, probably won't be the last.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
    Need "Sniper'sHide Legal Defense Team" morale patches...
    ^^ this.

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    Where can we read a copy of their lawsuit?
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    Frank

    I don't do paypal and I am sure there are others who choosw not to . I want to send a check. Is there an address for that. Please PM me.

    Sorry didn't see the address on your OP.

    Donation sent.
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    I just sent a donation to the cause.
    I hope you kick his butt!
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    Benji sent. Make sure everyone to select family/friends... though paypal sucks, this is worth the fight. Marc, let us know if you need some too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrand11 View Post
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    I don't do paypal and I am sure there are others who choosw not to . I want to send a check. Is there an address for that. Please PM me.
    At the bottom of Franks first post in this thread he has an address listed too
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    I'm betting over $1000 has been sent so far. That's good, but nothing where think about what people here spend on glass. In regards to Branden's comments, if each member gave $25, Frank would have a nice retirement... Right around $2,000,000.

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    Hope all goes well Frank. I'm not sure on what grounds TR feels that they have a right to file suite for people criticizing their business on facts/results.

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