Alright thanks so much again for the clarification fireguyty! And I agree with Glocksteady, I really do appreciate the help [img]<>/laugh.gif[/img]
I guess I will look at vortexs for future rifles and when I get more money to spend on optics. But for now I will stick to the Nikon because I really loved the glass when I went to see it, and it's within my price point.
Plus your positive experience with it makes me more confident about it.
A buddy of mine though is trying to convince me to get a weaver T24 or the Mueller 8-32x44, but I don't know if higher mag is the way to go because I have it stuck in my head that lens quality is more important. Plus you said that holes in targets are still visible with the 16x, so I guess I can go that route. Would you still stick with Nikon for this (4-16) or go for those, mainly for shooting targets at 50-100 yards?
And one more quick thing, if I for whatever reason can get my hands on one of the newer Vortexes 6.5-20x44, not the old one for $280, you would definitely recommend for me to go that route? Or just stick to the Nikon?
I'd stay away from Mueller, and have never seen a Weaver, but notice a strong following for them.
The other guys also make a strong point with Vortex's warranty, it's second to none.
For the magnification especially for the yardage you are after, 16 will be more than enough. I have shot mine out to 1060 yards, so 100 yards will be fine.
Again, I just don't like that particular Vortex. Perhaps a different model would suit your needs better. Maybe a 4-12 Viper, or better yet the 2.5-10 Viper HS is still in that price range.
Happy to help,