Shortly after opening the doors to our new facility in 2011 I offered a Group Buy for bolt fluting that exploded into over 600 bolts in a 5 week period! Most were received, fluted, coated, and shipped the same day. It set the bar on what’s possible.
A receiver accurizing, barrel fitting, and coating Group Buy is a bold undertaking, one that I’ve wanted to initiate for some time. It became readily apparent though that we’d fail miserably because the infrastructure to pull it off successfully just didn’t exist. During the month of February that all changed.
We have new additions to our resources; A Kitamura MyCenter 2 Vertical Machining Center and a Hardinge HLV Tool Room lathe. Kitamura is a top level machine tool manufacturer based in Japan. This company rubs shoulders with an exclusive club of machine tool manufacturers. Kitamura is capable of exceptionally accurate machine work at blazing speed.
We’ve also purchased a Hardinge HLV tool room lathe, a manual lathe that is highly sought after by toolmakers for its accuracy and ability to quickly adapt to a particular need. We didn’t stop there. A 19+ hour road trip rewarded us with a much larger ceracoat curing oven. It allows us to batch run jobs with maximum efficiency.
Finally, we’ve expanded and improved our shipping/receiving department and added additional staff.
We now have the horsepower to deliver the caliber of work we’ve come to be known for and get it back to clients in a time frame that sets a new standard for the industry.
This Group Buy specifically targets the Remington 700, Model 7, and 40X series of actions. Long or short with any bolt face/factory extractor configuration. The verbage below is detail oriented and long. It has to be. Read it closely and you’ll find that just about any possible question is answered already.
A detailed list of services:
Tier One Action Work: (Work performed on a Kitamura MyCenter 2x CNC Vertical Machining Center-a process pioneered by LongRifles, Inc.)
1. Resurface Receiver Ring square to bore centerline
2. Helically bore ID of receiver ring bore parallel/concentric to bore centerline
3. Resurface Lug abutments square to bore centerline
4. Qualify lug abutment/receiver ring height to 1.1350”
5. Interpolate/Thread Mill receiver ring to a thread pitch of 1.085-16tpi
6. Qualify Threads with custom built gauging- (we are the first shop to do this)
7. Truncate lead thread of receiver ring to mitigate galling during final assembly
8. Chamfer ID bore/receiver ring
9. Chamfer/relieve bottom of front scope base screw hole/receiver thread intersection.
Receiver Accurizing Options:
1. Helically bore and interpolate/Thread Mill Receiver scope base holes to 8-40tpi on the receiver bore centerline
2. Locate and drill dowel pin holes for pinned recoil lug
Bolt Accurizing/fluting: (Work performed on a Hardinge HLV Tool Room Lathe and HAAS VF1, 4-axis Machining Center)
1. Resurface rearward lug surfaces square to bolt centerline
2. Resurface bolt face square to bolt centerline
3. Mirror polish extractor shoes on factory M700 “floating” extractor
Bolt work Options:
1. Bolt fluting for cosmetic appeal/weight reduction. SIX flute pattern on all fluting work
A. High Helix Pattern
B. Std Helix Pattern
C. Straight Pattern
3. Tactical Bolt Knob installation
*NOTE: We use 5/16-24tpi threads only
Barrel Fitting: (Work performed on a Doosan Mecatec 280N II slant bed CNC turning center and HAAS VF1 4 Axis CNC Vertical Machining Center)
1. Measure and document tennon geometry
2. Edit program to individual receiver dimensions
3. Profile barrel tennon
4. Thread tennon to fit receiver threads
5. Setup/select chamber reamer
6. Chamber barrel
7. Chamfer breech ring/entrance to chamber
8. Qualify Headspace to a value of GO+.001”/.002”
9. Cut to finish length
10. Crown ( choice of True 11* Tgt crown or Recessed 11* Hunter Crown)
11. CNC Engrave Cartridge Designation on Barrel Cylinder
Barrel Fitting Options:
1. Threading for muzzle cans, recoil reduction devices. Qualified with 2A/2B traceable/certified Ring and Plug Gauging in the following thread size/pitches:
2. Thread protectors. Qualified with 2A/2B traceable/certified Ring and Plug Gauging in the following thread size/pitches:
Metal Finishing: (All work performed in house. Ceracoat work is done with an environmentally controlled/filtered paint booth)
1. Standard polish finish on barrels
2. Bead blast finish using glass bead media (SS only)
3. Oven Cure Ceracoat in any standardized color offered by NIC Industries
4. Hot tank Parkerizing (carbon steel parts only, SS cannot be parkerized)
Our intent is to provide a unique opportunity for the Sniper’s Hide community. Pricing is based on a sliding scale. “Viral” participation achieves the maximum savings potential. The investment we’ve put into our infrastructure allows us to operate on a production schedule never before achieved in the custom gunmaking industry. The emphasis is on top quality and maximum efficiency.
Receiver/Bolt work: Participation based Pricing Schedule: 0-50/51-75/76-125/126+
1. Tier One M700 accurizing package $200/$175/$150/$125
A. 8-40 scope base hole work (Optional) $65/$55/$45/$35
B. Bolt Fluting in any standardized pattern $60/$55/$50/$45
C. Tactical Bolt Knob installation (labor only) $60/$55/$50/$45
NOTE*: RATES DO NOT INCLUDE ANY METAL FINISHING
Barrel Fitting Work Participation based Pricing Schedule 0-50/51-75/76-125/126+
1. .390” and .480” and .545” Bolt face S/A Cartridges $250/$235/$225/$200
2. .480” and .545” Bolt face L/A Cartridges $265/$255/$235/$225
3. .590” Bolt Face L/A Cartridges $275/$265/$255/$250
NOTE*: RATES DO NOT INCLUDE ANY METAL FINISHING OTHER THAN STANDARD POLISH
*Barrel Fitting Options: Participation based Pricing Schedule: 0-50/51-75/76-125/126+[/B]
1. Threading for muzzle cans, recoil reduction devices $80/$70/$65/$55/$50
2. Thread protectors $40/$40/$35/$30
Metal Finishing: Participation based Pricing Schedule: 0-50/51-75/76-125/126+
1. Standard polish barrel finish FREE/FREE/FREE/FREE
2. Glass Bead Media Blast Finish $30/$25/$20/$15
3. Oven Cure Ceracoat (Barreled action only*) $175/$155/$135/$125
*NOTE: “Barreled Action” means: Barrel/Muzzle Device
when applicable, Recoil Lug, Receiver,Bolt/Bolt knob
when applicable, and Bolt Shroud ONLY
4. Oven Cure Ceracoat (Action only*) $130/$125/$120/$115
*NOTE: “Action Only” means: Receiver, Bolt/Bolt knob
when applicable, and Bolt Shroud ONLY
5. Oven Cure Ceracoat (Barrel only) $65/$60/$50/$40
6. Hot Tank Parkerize ( Carbon Steel Actions only) $50/$45/$40/$30
NOTE: Processes like Melonite, cryogenic treatment, etc are NOT being offered. We are limiting this GB to what’s listed in this initial offer. DO NOT send us a barrel that has been surface nitride (melonite) treated.
Complete Package* Recipients are eligible for FREE RETURN SHIPPING VIA USPS PRIORITY MAIL
NOTE* “Complete Package” defined as: Tier One Accurization, Bolt Fluting, Tactical Bolt knob installation, 8-40 base hole modification, Barrel fitting in any chambering w/wo muzzle device, and ceracoat work.
Products: Pricing Schedule:
M700 Tactical Bolt Knobs: CNC Machined from 6061 T6 bar stock in an elegant yet simple design to aid in rapid bolt manipulation. $29.99
M700 Heavy Tactical Recoil lug: CNC Machined from heat treated 4340 Chromoly Bar stock, Surface ground to a mirror finish, ID bored/chamfered to a slip fit on the barrel tennon. 1* draft taper on sides with fully radiused corners maximize the recoil transmission area against the stock while still allowing for easy installation/removal from a bedded rifle stock. $54.99
NOTE* Our M700 Heavy Tactical lugs are wider across the bottom than what’s typical. Chassis stocks and composite stocks may require additional clearance work for proper installation. This service can be easily done by a competent machinist/gunsmith for a reasonable rate. We are not offering this service as part of our Group Buy offer.
Reconditioned FACTORY Remington M700 Recoil lug: ID bored/Chamfered and surface ground factory Remington M700 recoil lug. (OEM nominal thickness is .1875”. Ground lugs will vary in thickness based on how much it takes for them to clean up on both sides. Some require more than others. $34.99
How this all works:
The purpose here is to offer a high quality, custom fitted barreled action at a price point that makes it affordable to a broad market. When reaching to a broad audience the available options have to narrow up a bit. Failure to do so will result in this whole effort failing miserably. Because of this harsh fact, please note that the options are being limited to what’s been listed. There are some exceptions however.
We have over 100 chamber reamers in our inventory covering a broad spectrum of popular cartridge combinations. As extensive as this is, I know there’s going to be requests for wildcats. We have no problem chambering your rifle in a cartridge outside of our inventory of reamers. The official LRI policy on tooling is for the customer to source and purchase the reamer and GO gauge from Pacific Tool and Gauge.
We will use the tool to chamber your rifle. If it is a cartridge that we feel is popular, the offer will be made to split the cost of the tool by offering a discount on your total bill. Agreeing to this means the reamer becomes the sole property of LongRifles, Inc. The total discount/split will never exceed 50% of the reamer and GO gauge’s cost. In layman’s terms it means we’ll knock off around $75 from your total bill and keep the reamer.
Please! do your homework and research. The internet is a vast resource of both good and bad information. I do not profess to know every cartridge in existence. Being chained to a telephone discussing the latest “buzz word” cartridge only means that delivery schedules end up delayed. Help us help you by keeping this to an absolute minimum.
For a Group Buy to be successful there must be a level of transparency. What this means is everyone involved has to know the rules have visibility on the level of participation. If you are interested enough to participate then you MUST do so right here on this post/offer. All you have to do is respond to this thread by noting the quantities of what you plan to send us:
3 receivers for accurizing
3 barrel jobs
2 muzzle threads
3 bolt fluting
1 barrel fluting
Please, keep it that simple. There’s more than enough opportunity to answer specific questions. This is ONLY a roster. This sole purpose is to gauge participation so that everyone knows where they stand on the pricing. Save your questions for later please!
I am in the process of generating a comprehensive GB form. It’s going to take a few days to get it live on our site. Don’t worry. It’ll be there. You’re not missing out. The important thing right now is to show your interest by responding to the thread so that we can gauge the participation level. Once the form is live you’ll be able to fill in your information and specific requests.
Please do not blow up my PM box with questions. Everything we are able to offer in this GB has been listed in detail. If it’s not here, were not offering it. The intent is to get the Hide Community shooting this summer with good equipment, not torture each other with long delays due to ultra specialized applications.
Barreling. If you have a custom action and just want it barreled at the reduced rate, let it be known by joining in the GB. No one is restricted from participating in this regard. The same goes for ceracoat work.
Processing work through the shop; it’s going to depend on efficiency. We are going to let this “soak” for a good while. Hopefully it’s so popular that the lowest price level is met soon. The sooner we get good visibility on participation the sooner we’ll begin taking in the work.
We are a large facility. That being said the shop is quite cozy due to all the equipment resources. Having 200+ barreled actions show up at once would be a nightmare to process and regulate. It’s how mistakes get made and were committed to ensuring that is kept to an absolute minimum.
Were going to run in batches of 20 to start. Once we determine that it’s time to start sending in work we will do so by surveying the cartridges being requested. If we get a pile of 308 Winchesters and a fruit salad of others then it makes sense for us to run all the 308’s first. This is how production gets efficient. It allows us to be profitable while simultaneously offering deep discounts on the work being done. I’ve invested heavily into our infrastructure. We have full confidence on being able to run a production schedule that will surprise a great number of people. This is already well documented here on Sniper’s Hide.
I DO NOT STOCK BARRELS. You will need to source your own custom barrel. The prices quoted above are largely for LABOR ONLY. The cost of a barrel is NOT included in anything.
We encourage everyone to source their barrel(s) from any of the following quality vendors:
Grizzly Industrial. –Bartlein barrel vendor with over 1200 barrels in stock
Southern Precision Rifles, aka “Bugholes.com” Stocking every top shelf level cut rifle barrel made in the United States. Over 200 in stock usually
Bruno’s Shooter Supply in AZ. Stocks both cut and button rifled barrels in good quanitity
3rd Generation Shooter Supply, Stocks a variety of barrels
Sinclair International. Another great resource for custom barrels.
I’m sure there are many others, these are the companies I’ve either had personal experience with or that come highly recommended by our clients.
PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING:
Barrels manufactured by Lothar Walther will not be used under any circumstance.
Black Star barrels will not be used under any circumstance.
Barrels with stellite liners will not be used under any circumstance. If a barrel that has been treated this way slips through our initial QC and breaks a reamer, YOU will be billed for the full replacement cost of the chamber reamer and any other tooling costs. DON’T DO IT.
A barrel that has been surface nitrided, “melonited”, or undergone any other treatment that increases its surface hardness beyond the typical 32-35 Rockwell C scale level will not be used under any circumstance. If a barrel that has been treated this way slips through our initial QC and breaks a reamer, YOU will be billed for the full replacement cost of the chamber reamer and any other tooling costs. DON’T DO IT.
Accurizing a receiver involves increasing the pitch diameter of the existing thread where the barrel attaches. We CANNOT accurize your receiver and reattach your old barrel using the original threads. To do so would be extremely dangerous to you the end user. IF your barrel has a long cylinder (largest part of the barrel directly in front of the recoil lug) you can send it in and we will remove the existing tennon and remachine it. It’s the same amount of work to do this so the cost for barreling will not be reduced.
Upon receipt of your parts and the group buy form, you will be invoiced for the work your asking us to provide for you. Payment is due upon the completion of the commitment on our end.
We like working for our paychecks. If you prefer to send a check ahead of time that is fine, but it is not a requirement.
We DO accept credit cards. A 4% service charge will be assessed for all credit card payments.
SHIPPING YOUR PARTS TO US:
The best method is a gun case of appropriate size to what your sending us. This gives the best assurance that your parts will make it here in one piece. If you decide to ship in a cardboard container that is ok too, but UNDERSTAND that your completed barreled action WILL be shipped back to you in a $29.99 dollar gun case. This is NOT negotiable. It’s been a hard lesson having to accept that mail courier services (all are guilty) are not going to treat someone else’s property with respect and care.
Guns in general seem especially susceptible (targets?) for abuse. I would much rather have you a little upset over a gun case that you don’t really need/want than be cussed out and chastised for sending a gun in a box only to discover it’s been destroyed while in transit.
Take off barrels will not be returned to customers unless specifically annotated on the GB form. If you call later and ask for it, a $25.00 fee will be charged to you along with the return shipping. There's about 150 take off barrels in this shop at any given moment. Sorting through all of them is a long winded process. Time is money.
I may from time to time come back and edit/update this initial post. There are bound to be things that come up that I’ve overlooked. Please return and review it frequently so that you have the most current status on what is going on.
Thank you and we look forward to being of service.
UPDATED/CURRENT REAMER INVENTORY AS OF 4.12.2013: (COPIED FROM EXCEL, IT DOESN'T FORMAT THE SAME SO READ CAREFULLY)
17 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
17 TACTICAL 0.2020 SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE
17 REMINGTON SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
17 HMR SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS 0.042
17 HMR SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS 0.042
20 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
204 RUGER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE
204 RUGER SAAMI 1*30" 0.02 HSS
20 TACTICAL SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
20 TACTICAL SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
20 TACTICAL ROUGHER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
20 VARTARG ROUGHER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
20 ACKLEY BEE GO/NGO
22 CALIBER R/F NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
22LR ELEY EPS HSS 0.041
22 RF 0.041
22LR ANSCHUTZ 1*30" HSS 0.041
22 WINCHESTER RIMFIRE MAGNUM SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS 0.041
22 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
218 BEE SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE
223 REMINGTON MATCH SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
22 WALDOG RESIZER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
22 NESIKA SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
5.56MM NATO +.001"-.0015" HSS GO
22-250 REMINGTON ACKLEY IMPROVED MATCH MIN SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
22-250 REMINGTON MIN SAAMI 1*30" 0.02 HSS GO
223 REMINGTON ACKLEY IMPROVED .2520" 1* 30" 0 HSS GO
220 WEATHERBY ROCKET SAAMI 1*30" 0.025 HSS GO
223 REMINGTON WYLDE CARBIDE
22 K HORNET SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
22-243 WINCHESTER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
220 SWIFT SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
6MM CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
6MMXC SAAMI 1*30 0.103 HSS GO/NGO
6MM BLOWTORCH SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
6MMx47 SWISS MATCH SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
6MM XC SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE GO/NGO
6MM BR LAPUA 0.2720 1*30" 0.045 HSS GO
6MM BR 0.2720 1*30" 0.104 HSS GO
243 WINCHESTER 0.2750 1*30" 0.06 HSS .308W GO
243 WINCHESTER SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS .308W GO
6MM COMPETITION MATCH 31* SHOULDER SAAMI 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
6MM-22-250 0.2740 1*30" 0.098 HSS GO
6MM DASHER 0.2700 GO
6MM REMINGTON MATCH 0.2730 1*30" 0.06 HSS GO
6MM-284 MATCH .2770" 1*30" .107" HSS GO
6MM LONG DASHER 0.2735 1*30" 0.104 HSS GO
240 WEATHERBY MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" HSS GO BELT
243 WINCHESTER ACKLEY IMPROVED SAAMI 1*30" HSS GO
6MM-6.5MMX47 LAPUA ACKLEY IMPROVED 0.2735 1*30" 0.057 HSS GO /6.5X47L
6MM CREEDMOOR SAAMI 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO/6.5 CREEDMOOR
250-3000 SAVAGE GO ONLY
257 ROBERTS SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI CARBIDE
6.5 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
6.5-284 Match 0.2970 1*30 0.187 HSS GO
6.5-284 NORMA Match SAAMI 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO
6.5BR WARE 0.2890 1*30 0.104 HSS 6BR GO
6.5 Creedmore "tactical" (BERGER VLD) SAAMI 1*30 0.109 HSS GO (setup for Mag tolerant heavy Bergers)
6.5 Creedmore "Amax" (Setup for factory Hornady Amax) -ON ORDER WITH PTG DELIVERY DATE TBD
6.5 X 47 LAPUA 0.2910 1*30" 0.179 HSS GO
264 WINCHESTER MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO BELT MAG GAUGE
260 REMINGTON TACTICAL MATCH 0.2980 1*30" 0.088 HSS .308W GO (looser neck, throated for heavy stuff in an AI mag)
260 REMINGTON MATCH 0.2960 1*30" 0.18 HSS .308W GO
260 REMINGTON ACKLEY IMPROVED 0.2980 1*30" 0.088 HSS GO
6.5MM WINCHESTER SHORT MAGNUM 0.2990 1*30" 0.14 HSS GO
6.5-300 NESIKA SAAMI 1*30 SAAMI HSS
6.5 X 47 LAPUA 0.2950 1*30 180 HSS GO
270 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
270 WINCHESTER SHORT MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
7MM CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
7X57 R SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE
7MM-08 SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI CARBIDE .308W GO/NGO
7MM-08 ACKLEY IMPROVED 0.3170 1*30" 0.06 HSS GO
7MM REMINGTON MAGNUM MIN SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
7mm RSAUM 0.3190 1*30" 0.188 HSS GO
7MM REMINGTON MAGNUM (180 GRAIN) 0.3170 1*30 0.22 HSS GO/SHOULDER
7MM DAKOTA MAGNUM 0.3160 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO
7MM ULTRA MAGNUM MATCH SAAMI 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO/SHOULDER
7MM-300 WINCHESTER MAGNUM 0.3120 1*30" 0.22 HSS GO/SHOULDER
7MM-300 WINCHESTER MAGNUM 0.3160 1*30" 0.2 HSS GO/SHOULDER
280 REMINGTON ACKLEY IMPROVED SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
7MMX57MM MAUSER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS
7MM WINCHESTER SHORT MAGNUM 0.3190 1*30" 0.188 HSS GO
30 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
30-378 WEATHERBY MAGNUM MATCH 0.3350 SAAMI SAAMI HSS
308 OBERMEYER SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
308 TOMPKINS SAAMI 1/2* 0.024 HSS GO/NGO
308 WINCHESTER "SNIPER" SAAMI 1*30 0.112 CARBIDE GO/NGO ("Go to" reamer for mag tolerant 175-190G loads)
308 WINCHESTER "SNIPER" SAAMI 1*30 0.112 CARBIDE GO/NGO ("Go to" reamer for mag tolerant 175-190G loads)
2011 US FULLBORE 0.3445 1*30" 0.05 HSS GO/CHAMBER GAUGE
300 WSM MATCH 0.3350 SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
308 GAMBOA SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
308 PALMA BISLEY SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
308 95-PALMA 0.3420 1*30 0.05 HSS GO
300 NORMA MAGNUM FINISH SAAMI SAMM SAAMI HSS GO
300 NORMA MAGNUM 30* IMPROVED 0.3400 1*30" 0.2 HSS GO
300 REMINGTON ULTRA MAGNUM SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
300-338 LAPUA MAGNUM SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
300 DAKOTA SAAMI SAAMI SAAMI HSS GO
300 WSM TACTICAL 0.3435 1*30 0.1 HSS GO
300 WINCHESTER MAGNUM MATCH 0.3405 1*30 0.098 HSS GO/SHOULDER
338 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
338 LAPUA MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" 250 SIERRA CARBIDE G0/NGO
338 LAPUA MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" 300 SIERRA CARBIDE NGO
338 LAPUA MAGNUM ACKLEY IMPROVED SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO/NGO
338 NORMA MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
338 EDGE (300G SMK THROAT) 0.3710 1*30 SAAMI HSS GO
338 REMINGTON ULTRA MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
8MM REMINGTON MAGNUM SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
338 ABE EXPRESS IMPROVED SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
416 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
416 RIGBY SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
45 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
458 LOTT SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS
50 CALIBER NECK DIAMETER THROAT ANGLE FREEBORE TOOL MATERIAL GAUGING
50 BMG ARMALITE SAAMI 1*30" SAAMI HSS GO
STATUS UPDATE 4.10.2013:
Count appears to be at 42. -8 from the 1st price break
STATUS UPDATE 4.26.13:
I've talked it over with the guys and we are going to offer barrel fluting after all.
READ THIS CAREFULLY:
My mill has a work envelope of 20" in X. That means the MAXIMUM flute length is more like 19 and some change because of how the rotary axis is bolted to the machine.
SO, if your looking to stick a 30" monster tube on your receiver and want it fluted WE ARE NOT THE GUYS TO DO IT. I just don't have that much travel. 26" and under is fine because you leave the cylinder alone and we always cut 1.5" short of the muzzle in case a guy later wants to have threads put on it.
Price is $175 for SIX flutes. Each additional flute is $25.00 With out cutter geometry on an M24 contour barrel we can do up to 9 flutes. They look pretty cool.
The scimitar build thread GS section and the You Tube video of the Oneill Ops Coyote rifle shows the 9 flute pattern.
If you want your stuff fluted and it fits the parameters of what we can do, then we'll be happy to help.
STATUS UPDATE: 4.26.13:
The count thus far is 102 signed up. 24 more to hit the lowest price break. Were almost there gents.
STATUS UPDATE: 5.1.13:
Enrollment form is completed. I've forwarded a draft copy to Frank Galli (owner of S/H) for his approval prior to it going live. Once I have his blessing/critique we will send it to our web designer and it'll go live on the LRI site and here as well.
Final count is in process, but it looks promising. I think we made it to the magical 126 number
STATUS UPDATE: 5.1.13:
Group Buy Enrollment Form:
STATUS UPDATE: 5.1.13:
Something I've yet to address is knowing where/how to fit up a new barrel to an existing stock that has a form fitted channel. .
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE WITH SPORTER STOCKS AND RIFLES WITH TIGHT FITTING BARREL CHANNELS. Take a moment and review it. IT'll save all of us a lot of headaches! It's also located on Page 6!
This pertains to folks sending us barreled action work that goes back into an existing stock with a form fitting barrel channel. I don't have a magic wand to know exactly where the barrel needs to sit. You have to do this for me if I'm going to get it right.
Peel your existing barreled action from your stock.
Step Two: Lay your new barrel in your stock and slide it back and forth until the fit in the channel emulates what your existing barreled action has.
Step Three: Carefully make a line using a permanent ink magic marker where the barrel lines up with the back side of the recoil lug well. This is the part of the well that takes the recoil when the rifle is fired. This happens to be the same plane as the face of the action.
That's it. Your done! From here I can crunch numbers and sort the rest of it out. Changes in recoil lug thickness don't affect anything. Don't over think it and don't drag out the electron microscope to do this. It's pretty simple stuff really. If it looks right, it is right. Trust your eyes. Get the wife involved, she'll know. . .
STATUS UPDATE: 5.2.13 (ALSO POSTED IN POST#268)
WE ARE READY TO BEGIN ACCEPTING WORK! D DAY IS HERE!!
Here's the list:
11. Joe Fogg
12. L Williams
This is the first 20 that signed up. Be sure to have your form downloaded and filled out. PLEASE make an effort to write legibly. I don't mean to offend, but good penmanship goes a long way to making stuff like this go smoothly. Remember, the more phone calls I have to make tracking down basic information, the longer all of this takes.
Lets rock this biche!
ROUND TWO SEND IT
Here is the next group:
STATUS UPDATE 6.3.13:
IT'S TIME FOR WAVE 3!!
DALLAS4RCE. . .
UPDATE 7.24.2013: Official Policy for returning your old take off barrel:
Shipping back a take off barrel is no problem provided. . .
1. You CLEARLY annotate that you want it back on your paperwork.
2. Multiple barrels (some of you animals are sending us 3,4,5 guns at once) will be shipped separately from your other stuff. You will also be billed for the return shipping if it won't fit in your box/case.
3. If its here and you suddenly change your mind there will be a $25.00 fee to change this for EACH BARREL.
-You gotta understand guys that I have a massive pile of these things now. When they go into our inventory they are just stacked up. Sorting through a pile of take offs isn't fun/easy and it burns up the clock.
4. A lot of these barrels have been ceracoated. I've also fluted, spiral fluted, skip fluted a small gaggle of them as well. They work well for trying out new ideas. Some of these have also been ceracoated. I'm not done yet either, there are more things I want to piddle with. Point being, if you suddenly shift gears and want your old barrel back then any machine work I may have done will be billed. My end game in this is to flogg these barrels to the Ebayers.
SO, avoid all this fuss by making sure you put it on your GB form prior to sending in your stuff. Kalli does all the tear downs and she's real careful with ensuring things are tracked properly. If you put it down on your form, she'll catch it and were all good.
In the future (this pertains to all future orders) PLEASE send at least ONE piece of brass for us to test fire through the rifle. ESPECIALLY if its a wild cat or a cartridge known to be difficult to source brass for.
Here's the deal germs. As we know, ammunition components are a real bugger to source these days. It's not realistic for me to carry every kind of brass, bullet, die, powder, primer combination out there. It'll just never happen. My selection is pretty good and I'm buying stuff all the time, but its still pitifully inept when dealing with the scope of this GB.
SO, if you guys could just toss one or two pieces of brass into the box with your stuff it would go a long long way towards helping us out. As a cardinal rule we ALWAYS test fire the barreled actions we ship. The one time we don't it always seems to bite us in the ass.
Case in point:
We did a 338 Norma Magnum for a guy. The bolt has an AR-15 extractor in it. It slipped over the GO gauge no problem, but it causes the bolt to hang up when attempting to chamber a case. The counterbore is maybe a thou or two too small and the extractor doesn't have the room to slip over the rim w/o slamming against the counterbore. GUN NO WORKY. . .
We didn't have any 338 Norma Magnum brass and since it H/S ok, I let it go. Now its back again. (Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
Nobodies fault other than my own. I should have let it sit till we shot it. The client was/is very cool about it and were fixing it right now. In the grand scheme its a small annoyance, but were striving to keep this 100% so its annoying.
All over a stupid piece of brass.
Help us help you please. Stick a case in there so we get it right the first time.
Thanks. Overall were doing really well. Next batch will be called up later this week.
Next 30, SEND THAT CHIT!!
I've been receiving a fair number of traffic about fitting GB barreled actions to stocks. Bedding, etc...
Gents its kinda outside the scope of what this effort is about. I'm not opposed to it, but understand that there are some strict rules that I have regarding stocking a rifle. Whether you all think its better, overkill, silly, too expensive, it is what it is.
I charge $750 to stock a gun. I know, "wholly chit". Before you go running off to have me admitted to the loony bin, read the following:
This buys you a computer generated inlet specific to your personal barreled action. That means a minimum of 2 hours in front of the computer doing nothing else.
It gets the stock bedded with a very sophisticated/expensive resin system free of air bubbles and other inclusions. Once cured the task of blending the tang to the stock is addressed. In almost every application (there are a few notable exceptions) the tang area is blended to a seamless transition. The only way to do this is with a file and a sanding block. It's a fair amount of work to get it right.
Once bedded and peeled apart, the stock is again put into the milling center and the 2ndary inlet is started. This is where the stock becomes functional. Trigger wells, floor metals, etc are all fitted to a 1:1 fit. As conservative and neat as I know how to make them. Programming edits and changes often have to do be done on the fly to tailor things specific to each gun. Those who've been here have seen the individual computer files archived for every gun I've ever put a stock on. It's all stored for reference in the event I ever need to refer back to something.
Once this is all done a mock up assembly is done. This is to check everything over. Once that is done the stock is ready for paint. ALL of LRI's full builds get a paint job. NO EXCEPTIONS EVER. I hear this a hundred times a month, "I don't care what it looks like, the gel coat is fine."
-I care. Our name is on it. MY name is on it. I don't claim to be better than anyone else at this stuff. That said I KNOW there are things I am able to do that other shops just can't. -Not profitably, and not realistically. The stock work I do has distinguished LRI from some of my competitors. Because of this, I have to hold the shop to a single standard. It's no different than a custom barrel maker who offers one standard for barrels.
If you agree with this and don't mind the cost, then I welcome you to call me. I'd be happy to stock your barreled action. IF your a new guy and you've bought all your stuff in anticipation of a new build, I MAY NOT BE THE GUY TO DO THE STOCK WORK. I say this because your going to be paying a whole lot of money for me to UNDO what the stock manufacturer did. I start with an uninletted blank. NO EXCEPTIONS. So, if you just dropped 6-7-8 bills for a top of the line tactical stock from Tom or McMillan. Your going to be sucking some serious wind when I charge you that $750 PLUS another $100 to fill that brand new stock back up and start over. Especially when you paid extra for molded in GAP camo or some other custom color variation.
It's all gone when I get my hands on your stock. Count on it.
Your best solution if you want me to stock your rifle is to buy the cheapest, most stripped down version of what you want. RAW and unfinished is even better. This way you only pay for the work done ONCE.
IF you want me to stock your rifle then I gotta know BEFORE the barreled action goes to ceracoat. I coat everything AFTER bedding because of the sanding/fitting work involved. If its an afterthought I'll still bed it, but you WILL be charged to ceracoat the parts again.
Planning ahead will save yourself hundreds of dollars. When it all comes out in the wash, I am about $100-$200 more expensive than most of my competitors. I'm also a great deal cheaper than some. I see skin bedded Remingtons going for 5 and 6 thousand bucks w/o optics all the time. The stocks not even painted. I don't get it. It suggests to me that I'm doing something wrong apparently. I don't know how many are being sold, but if guys are paying that much then a sucker is born every minute. My stuff isn't nearly that expensive.
I have a FULL SERVICE shop. Piece work is NOT our bread and butter, full builds ARE. The orders of operation are well thought out and executed here. If we play by those rules then the chances of problems are greatly reduced. It will also save you some of your hard earned mullah which is what this GB is really all about.
Hope this helps.