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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Planning on picking one up from the current Group Buy. This thread has been very helpful. I'm only about half way through it but I thought I'd throw out a couple question.

    I saw pictures somewhere with a DTA with a modular rail. Is that going to be available for the SRS as a retro fit? Also is there any plans for back straps adjustable pistol grips? The grip looks on the large side?
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Smoked me a deer yesterday with the SRS, using the 7SAUM barrel of course, and 162 Amax's. 435yds (same distance as my elk [img]<>/crazy.gif[/img]) It was awsome, bullet hit less than an inch or so from my POA.



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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    CB....GREAT deer!!!


    ...and by the way, I think your rangefinder is stuck at 435 yards! [img]<>/laugh.gif[/img]

    -defrost that sucker.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    CB great shooting and congrats
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Damn it I miss the mountains!
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Here's the shot, sorry but the camerawork is less than perfect. I was trying to shoot! Enjoy in HD, you can see the trace right up to his rib cage.


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    Awesome pictures and video. That is a great looking rifle.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    To run a NF 5.5-22x56 will the NF 1.375 20 moa unimount be a good choice for clearance for the scope and will it be to low for a food cheek weld? Anyone running this?

    Was thinking about the dta mount in 30 moa but didn't like the idea of using the spacers. Are the spacers gtg? And I should just go with the dta?
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    The DTA mount works fine with the spacers and many of us are using them with great results. If the spacers are the thing putting you off than don't worry about it. If you're looking for more glitz and glam there are others you can consider....but why?

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: cox380
    To run a NF 5.5-22x56 will the NF 1.375 20 moa unimount be a good choice for clearance for the scope and will it be to low for a food cheek weld? Anyone running this?

    Was thinking about the dta mount in 30 moa but didn't like the idea of using the spacers. Are the spacers gtg? And I should just go with the dta?



    I have been running the DTA 30 MOA mount with spacers for 3 years. One of the scopes I ran it with was that exact NF. Works great, so long as that scope height works good for you.
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    I just went back through this ENTIRE thread trying to find the hide member that does custom cut foam for hard cases without finding him. Anyone know who it might be? I've got a requirement for a large amount of equip cases to be cut and wanted to bring the work to some one here. Thanks for the help!

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Guys,
    Comlink is our official user community that brings together DTA owners, DTM ammo users, and Sniper Country Training students together. Here is a link to the Comlink sight.

    http://www.dtacomlink.com/

    Also Com Link hosted their first annual pumpkin shoot and will do doing this every year, hope to see everyone at the pumpkin shoot next year. Here are the videos from the shoot.





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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    New bolt : Big improvement, much more robust, what I expect on a military rifle, machine work/construction is exceptional, I have and others have shot about 600 plus rounds .308.

    Much better extractor design, the expansion collars on each end reduce bolt diameter improved bolt manipulation especially when dirty, better method to disassemble bolt of course the changeable bolt heads are a great innovation. The floating bolt head IMO is another plus in bolt lock up and chamber alignment.


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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Does anyone know how the DTA 7 WSM barrels are throated?

    I'm just curious where the lands are at on these barrels to see how far out it's possible to seat the 180 Bergers.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Thanks frank and fireguyty

    I'll probably end up with the DTA mount in that case. With the spaces they are both about the same price and if I ever take the SB or PH plunge I'll be GTG.

    Do you think the shorter height of the NF unimount would be a benefit or since most would consider the DTA mount the perfect height would that make the NF too short??
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Okay, covert 16" 1-8twist owners... What bullets are you running for supersonic? I would like to use 168 amax and possibly 155 amax and 155 scenars. On subs will 180 work or do I need to use 220?

    Thanks..

    Sorry for the confusion I meant 1-8.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    1:10 twist Covert barrels? Was that a special run? Do tell. They're normally 1:8 and from my experience they prefer the heavier bullets when shot supersonic. In my testing I tried some 155 Scenar and 168SMK loads that were well proven in my 20" and 24" .308s but didn't group very well. However, it shot my 175SMK loads like a champ!
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    agreed my 16" 1x8 covert .308 really likes my 185VLD and my 180Subs, It's a MOA gun at 100 and 1/2 or better out past 400
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: chaingunzz
    I just went back through this ENTIRE thread trying to find the hide member that does custom cut foam for hard cases without finding him. Anyone know who it might be? I've got a requirement for a large amount of equip cases to be cut and wanted to bring the work to some one here. Thanks for the help!

    I remember someone chiming in that they were close to place that cut them...think poster was from Plano, Tx??

    Can you stack two barrels in the storm case they sell?
    Was thinking of a bigger case for two extra barrels...

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: propulsionclimbing
    Does anyone know how the DTA 7 WSM barrels are throated?

    I'm just curious where the lands are at on these barrels to see how far out it's possible to seat the 180 Bergers.


    Jed, PM russw1911, he can give you exact measurements on where to seat them.

    Originally Posted By: dixie3bass
    Okay, covert 16" 1-8twist owners... What bullets are you running for supersonic? I would like to use 168 amax and possibly 155 amax and 155 scenars. On subs will 180 work or do I need to use 220?


    DB, me and several others shoot the 175SMK in the covert 16" 1-8 barrel. with 43.5gr of RL-15 I am getting around 2530fps. With spectacular performance for such a short and small gun. I have also shot plenty of 168amx's out of it as well, and they are great too.

    As far as subsonic, sure 180's will work, but I would go bigger, and take advantage of the 1-8 twist. I shoot 210VLD's, and am going to try the 208Amax's (purely economical), with the 210's I have had surprising accuracy and hits beyond 450yds.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle
    As far as subsonic, sure 180's will work, but I would go bigger, and take advantage of the 1-8 twist. I shoot 210VLD's, and am going to try the 208Amax's (purely economical), with the 210's I have had surprising accuracy and hits beyond 450yds.


    What powder are you using and what seating depth or COAL on the 210VLDs?

    For subsonics I like Hornady 225gr BTHPM, but for powder I've been using Trailboss and the stdev of velocity is too high for long-range accuracy.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Dbook, I am using 12.1 of TB, I'll have to check the COAL for ya.2.945 COAL, my barrel is a DTA factory Covert barrel. Funny you should mention the 225's, I was fixing to try them here shortly.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Anybody have an up close pic of the new bolt? I'm curious to see the new design, and just how much is different. Thanks in advance

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Here is the latest in the lineup of my barrels. This one is a .338BR 17" stainless PacNor barrel. I just finished it last night. It uses 6 or 7mm BR brass necked up to .338 and intended primarily for subsonic shooting using 300gr Matchkings or other heavies. It can also run the lighter .338 selections like the 200gr in the pictures with velocities up to 2200fps so far. This particular rifle has only been test fired for function so I can't give any accuracy info yet. I've had other rifles in this call though that did quite well. The standard .308 mag works well for both the lighter and heavier bullet loads. Recoil is pretty light as would be expected from a rifle this heavy. The suppressor reduces the recoil even more though with the lighter powder charges it has less effect. (The weight of the can is probably the big helper in this case.) Pictures show the rifle with the can installed and removed as well as one shot of the 2 different 338BR loadings compared to the .308 they were originally based on way back when. The can is funny colored from testing we did on the .338 Lapua Mag. It was a torture test with 50rds rapid fired to check for heat damage. It passed. Right now the can has about 1000rds through it with 850 being the 338 Lapua mag and the rest being the .338BR on another rifle. Its a good quiet can and works well on both. I guess I may need to engrave the bolt sleeve with another cal....

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    You're quickly becoming the King of Wildcats among SRS shooters. Well done!
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: biffj


    Which mount is that? 20, 30, or 40 MOA?
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Its the DTA 30 MOA mount with a 5.5-22 X 56 Nightforce. The front bell is pretty close to the rail but has just enough room to fit the scope cover on. Since I got rid or the long SRS handguard I can use the sunshade without any trouble....unless I'm shooting a short barrel with no can. The blast can carbon up the front of the bell....its not normally a problem since I prefer to shoot with a can.


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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    ^^^Thanks again Frank. So with the longer SRS hand guard the sunshade would be a problem?

    I'm planning on running the same scope on a DTA SRS. I'd like to run the shade if I can. I was going to go with the 30 MOA but If the shade is going to make contact maybe I should go with the 20 MOA?
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: cox380
    ^^^Thanks again Frank. So with the longer SRS hand guard the sunshade would be a problem?

    I'm planning on running the same scope on a DTA SRS. I'd like to run the shade if I can. I was going to go with the 30 MOA but If the shade is going to make contact maybe I should go with the 20 MOA?



    You can use the sunshade with no problems on with the long handguard but getting the cover on it can be a pain. Its pretty close to the rail with the shade on.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    I am a huge 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser fan.

    Is this caliber available for this platform and if not, is there a 6.5mm equivalent? (I have a metricf-ton of 6.5 bullets)

    Thanks.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: conndcj
    I am a huge 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser fan.

    Is this caliber available for this platform and if not, is there a 6.5mm equivalent? (I have a metricf-ton of 6.5 bullets)

    Thanks.


    I know of guys with 6.5 X 47 Lapua, 260 remington and 6.5 Creedmore setups so there are a few out there. I'm not sure what the case head diameter is on the 6.5 Swede but I think its an odd one....if it fits the .308 bolt head it too could be used. It is a good one indeed and the others are pretty hot right now as well. Good to great accuracy and good long range capability.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

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    Originally Posted By: conndcj
    I am a huge 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser fan.

    Is this caliber available for this platform and if not, is there a 6.5mm equivalent? (I have a metricf-ton of 6.5 bullets)

    Thanks.


    I know of guys with 6.5 X 47 Lapua, 260 remington and 6.5 Creedmore setups so there are a few out there. I'm not sure what the case head diameter is on the 6.5 Swede but I think its an odd one....if it fits the .308 bolt head it too could be used. It is a good one indeed and the others are pretty hot right now as well. Good to great accuracy and good long range capability.

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    Thanks for the reply, I'll check out the case head diameter but I think you are right that it is an odd one which would probably explain why I haven't seen one.

    If it isn't possible, what is the group feelinng about the best 6.5 alternative? Thanks again.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    conndcj.....I can only speak for my 6.5 creedmoor, but I LOVE this round. It's got the right ballistics, very little recoil, good factory ammunition at a fair price and plenty of components for those that reload.

    I am very confident with the 6.5 creed, but I get schooled by the 260 guys from time to time, so that's an option too.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Dta covert ordered! Thanks eurooptic!

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    according to my search the 6.5 X 55 has a rim diameter of .480 and the .308 has a rim diameter of .473. It might fit in the bolt face on the SRS and if so it would be a great round for the rifle. Not sure if it would be any better or worse than the current crop of 6.5's but it could work if its what you want.


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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Question: Does anyone know what angle-cosine indicator fits on the rail of a DTA rifle?

    I have a Badger Ordnance Angle Cosine Indicator Kit with Picatinny-Style Mount but it does not fit on my DTA SRS rail.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: vkc
    Question: Does anyone know what angle-cosine indicator fits on the rail of a DTA rifle?

    I have a Badger Ordnance Angle Cosine Indicator Kit with Picatinny-Style Mount but it does not fit on my DTA SRS rail.

    Thanks.


    How is it not fitting? I run the HORUS ACI and level combo on one SRS and levels on the Covert and HTI. They all work fine for me.
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    The cosine-angle device is off to the side of the rail mount, and the edge does not have enough clearance from the side rail.
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    I had the same problem, I had to remove the skins to get it on from the back.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

    Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle
    I had the same problem, I had to remove the skins to get it on from the back.


    Is there any trick to removing the skins?...or just remove screws and pop apart?
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    Nope, just pull the screws and off they come. Make sure you get the two QD swivel mounts on the back. And do yourself a favor and keep track of what screws go where.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

    Originally Posted By: Fredo
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    Yes, I cannot fault anything about that picture... I see the perfect match, both are well built and I would be happy taking all the time in the world to practice with both
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    Desert Tactical Arms sponsored a special side match at the 2012 Las Vegas Invitational Crap Shoot. Each shooter took three shots prone at 100 yards with a DTA SRS chambered in .308 Winchester. The ammunition used was Desert Tactical Munitions 175 grain OTM. All groups were measured from edge to edge and then .308" was subtracted. The objective was to shoot the tightest group, and shot placement had no bearing.



    32 shooters participated and the scores were very tight. The winner was very clear with a score of .092", but 2nd with a score of .192" all the way to half of the shooters at 16th with a score of .387" made it a very tight race!



    And congratulations to the winner, Allen Spiker who took home 100 rounds of Desert Tactical Munitions in 308 Winchester.



    Thanks to Desert Tactical Arms for the ammo, and to all the shooters who participated.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

    Originally Posted By: Fredo
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    I always wondered whether the models shoot the guns. Since her shoulder doesn't have a big welt on it I guess, at least in this case, she didn't [img]<>/smirk.gif[/img]

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    Yeah, we definitely aren't going to have booth babes because when someone posts that 16 out of 32 shooters shot a group that measured 0.387" or smaller and the only thing us guys see is a binkini, it doesn't help rifle sales. LOL
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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

    Out of a covert, would 178 amax work as well as 175 smk? I want a good all around load. Realistically what kind of range can I expect from 16" accurately? The plan is to get sac to spin me up a 260, 6.5 x47 or creedmoore, or a 243. I am undecided. I like the 6.5x47 from what i have read but brass and dies seems a little higher plus buying different primers.

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    I've shot to 1250 with my covert, I see no reason why the 178 wouldnt work just fine.

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    Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

    Originally Posted By: Nicholas Young
    Yeah, we definitely aren't going to have booth babes because when someone posts that 16 out of 32 shooters shot a group that measured 0.387" or smaller and the only thing us guys see is a binkini, it doesn't help rifle sales. LOL



    LOL!!!!

    See, that's why 95% of all businesses fail......they can't see past their own......ermmmmm......noses to make the right call on shit like this.

    My dumbass would have disco balls, a DJ, a stage with chicks like that on it, a tub of baby oil and a water canon! Damn it....you gonna notice my booth! I wouldn't sell rifle one but dudes would remember my shit.


    Yeah, I guess it's best you stay in charge.


    So someone please send her to me.....toot sweet......the boys at DTA won't be needing her.

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    Lofty,

    LOL, sounds about right.
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