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    338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    338 LM Accuracy Testing & 3 Day Precision Rifle Class @ Gunsite

    March 26th to 30th 2012

    Gunsite Academy - Paulden AZ,

    Putting out a feeler for those interested in participating in the class and 338 Bullet Test at Gunsite in March

    We would need at least 8 people, 10 would be better... to attend a 3 day class put on by the Gunsite Staff and then we will roll right into the 2 day bullet testing as discussed here on the Hide.

    The cost for the 5 days would be $1250...

    Looking for at least 8, hopefully we can secure 10 bodies to join in and help out while learning something about ELR in the process.

    Give us a tentative idea of your interest ?

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Highly interested.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I have strong interest, let me see about getting time from work.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Frank,

    There would be no objection to Norma Magnum chamberings, correct?

    It is more suitable for use with the ZA.

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    Bring whatever you like, doesn't matter...
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Please include 250/300 Scenar's if possible.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Agree with Cali. This is what I have been working with but my supply is getting low and I will have to decide what to do next.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    FYI,

    Hey we have just about enough people to get this off the ground, I have about 8 requests for attendance so I need to finalize this with Gunsite so everyone can sign up asap.

    So just to let people know we are moving forward and I have been fielding requests for attendance...
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Frank,

    Do you know if inclusion of the acoustic chronographs is being scheduled as part of ongoing BC testing?

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I've got a perfectly good area to set it up, and I can actually place the pole locations in advance. If the equipment can be here, there is no reason not to do it.

    As I noted in the older thread, recent Doppler testing of the Hornady 285 bullet turned up a BC of .7, within .015 of the desert test. I think if it's calibrated to that and the Lapua Doppler numbers, it's pretty much spot on.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I agree with you on the system reliability Cory. The set-up is optimized for sharp, clear, registration of sonic signatures, and would be a wonderful adjunct to the accuracy testing.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    As much as I would like to go to the class and the test, I'm not going to be able to get time off of work for March.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    And please, if you could run Berger OTM Hybrid and the traditional SMK 300gr? As reference points?

    Wish I could be there myself, but... Oh well, no rest for the wicked. [img]<>/smile.gif[/img]
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    and the Scenars which were left out of the last round of 338 BC comparison.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Frank & Cory,

    I'm in for this one, plan on running Hornady 285's out of a .338 LM. See you end of March.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    What's the estimated round count for the class?

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I shot about 150 rounds last time out. I brought 200 rounds with me.

    I would say we need to get everyone to start contacting Gunsite on this class, we have had a couple already go ahead and contact them, so we need to start finalizing the attendance.

    I think this is great opportunity to not only learn, but to take part in determining the accuracy of our favorite 338 bullets across several shooters. We can average out the results with the common rifles on the line.

    So I will touch base with Cory so we can start a formal attendance list. I know several have contacted me off line and outside of this discussion.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Is there a requirement of having a 338LM for the class and participating in the testing

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    No you don't have to come with a 338, you can come and take the class with what you have and then watch the testing using a rifle available, heck you can shoot mine.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    We need to contact Gunsite ASAP as they are planning the class and we have a bunch of people interested in observing and helping so we need all parties to get on board and contact Gunsite
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Called and put my name on the list. Yes!

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Just checked and its the week my parents fly in to visit(I'm originally from Ohio). Would of been a great time and opportunity, thanks for setting this up in AZ, maybe next time.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    don't have a 338 , do have a 375 . Contacting Cory time now .

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Guys, any ELR rig is welcome to attend, it's not a 338LM specific class. The accuracy test on the last two days will be using 338 projectiles, but we have plenty of rifles and you'll just shoot one or more of them if you don't actually bring some kind of 338.

    I'm currently planning the accuracy test phase for targets at 1000, 1500 and 2000 meters.

    As of this minute, I've only got 4 people that called in and registered. We need 8 to really make this work and it will max out at 12. I'd like to have the downrange acoustic chrono gear, but I'm not going to bring that in unless we get 4 more people registered this week. Thanks!
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Still need four more people to make this a go. If we don't get registrations by the end of next week, we'll be cancelling this project so people are not stuck for travel expenses.

    Again, a 338 rifle is not a requirement, shoot what you want for the class.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I'm waiting on my vacation request to be approved. So come on people, 3 more and we will make this a go.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I've got 5 right this minute, so if Phoenix gets vacation approved (or just happens to get pretty sick that week ) I'd say we are good.

    Still waiting word from the acoustic chrono guy, but I do have all sorts of night vision gear for the night shoot. We have DTA and Ashbury rifles on hand, and I've got test ammo with 250 and 300 Scenars, 300 Berger's as well as 285 Hornady's ready to go. If the plastics people come through for DTA, I'll have one of the new HTI's here to see/try as well.

    This should be FUN!
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    Chrono system is a go, 10 sensors from muzzle to target, should be perfect.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Ok, I'm good to go. Will be calling tomorrow and sending in my info. Looking forward to this.

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    I have the cutting edge, rocky mountain, some predator solids, the Berger OTM here so we'll have a bunch to shoot with...

    Looking forward to it.
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    Getting loaded up . Where is everyone staing . Prescott is good times .

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    I am loading up myself, not sure which place I want to stay at yet... ?
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    I plan on camping at the camp grounds. I sleep in hotels already enough. So if anyone else wants to bring a tent and join in the fun I will be tending the fire and drink beer.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Weather is pretty much perfect right now, so if it holds up we should get some real good work done.

    I've got 4x8's painted up for target boards at 500, 1000 and 1500 for the accuracy tests, going out to paint some steel and ckeck the UKD's, we are ready to go!
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    CoryT thanks for adding the 250/300 Scenars... I am very interested in your findings.

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    I have my 250 scenars too because that is what I am shooting for the XLR class, so we'll have them.

    I have ready to roll

    250gr Scenars
    250gr Berger Hybrids
    235gr Predator Solids
    285gr Hornady
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    325gr Rocky Mountain
    Lehigh Solids (245gr ? )

    I may have to load a few more up, not sure if I have enough of everything to manage rounds at all distances, flying limits me a bit to how much I can carry of each.
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    Image of boxes coming with me...
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    Damn, ammo porn.

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    I haz a jealous
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    i can bring a press and retumbo if ou need it. Got a pound of R25 also


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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    if you can, I can bring some extra rounds for sure... So bring it that would help.
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    ok , but bring dies . I'm shooting the 375
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

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    Are you going to do any 300 Scenars?
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    Pyrofx,
    Which 375's are you shooting
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I don't have any 300gr Scenars,

    The AWSM I am shooting is only a 1-11, waiting on my 1-9.5 AX to arrive before personally trying them... So who ever happens to have some can shoot them. (think Cory does)

    I am bringing the 300gr bullets I have here that were given too me, so they are loaded up and ready to roll, but my Accuracy International does much better with lighter bullets.

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    JUst curious, but why no SMKs? I'd like to see how they stack up against the others (bc that is what I shoot). I just can't justify buying scenars for high volume shooting.

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    Cheytac. 350 smk and 330 lehigh. 129 retumbo.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    60 MOA scope base...check
    123 MOA elevation adjustment...check



    I am really excited for this shoot!

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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I have 300 Scenars loaded, so that's covered. I've got press, dies, primers and Retumbo as well as the Acculab scale if we need it.
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    Re: 338 LM Accuracy Test and Class @ Gunsite

    I think I'd be excited if I were you too XLR. Damn, again.

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